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scotchandcigar

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I live in a world where I'm 48 years old and I get to decide what I put in my head. I only listen to news on the radio. I don't like any of the music on the radio anymore. Lately I listen to a lot of The Ponys, The Dirtbombs, old Pink Floyd, Stone Roses, New York Dolls and Röyksopp. I never watch award shows. Why would I?

My daughter is 13. Her brain is what current pop music is aimed at. Even when I was 13 my brain was nowhere near the crosshairs. At 13 I was all about Devo, Kraftwerk, Benny Goodman and Bach.
I'm 52 so I don't get what that has to do with anything. Perhaps I incorrectly assumed that on a digital radio forum, members would be listening to digital radio. Silly me.
 

scotchandcigar

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I don't have a "personal vendetta" against Lorde. I haven't shown up at her house or anything...yet. I just think she's a one-hit wonder. The rest of her songs have been weak. She's not an especially gifted singer. She may just be a lucky teenager. It's okay. Rock and pop are full of one-hit wonders.

Also, a zillion acts have had strings of hits from debut albums. It's hardly a rare feat. The Beatles, Guns and Roses, the Beastie Boys, the Cars, Madonna, Van Halen, Boston, Pearl Jam, blah blah blah.
A person literally can't be a one-hit wonder when they still have their entire career ahead of them. And Imagine Dragons would do well to be in the company of all those bands you mention.
 

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I'm 52 so I don't get what that has to do with anything. Perhaps I incorrectly assumed that on a digital radio forum, members would be listening to digital radio. Silly me.

I listen to Slacker and a few other streaming services. But Slacker never throws these songs into my mix. It knows that's not the kind of music I'm into.

Age has a lot to do with marketing, and pop music is driven by marketing. Brian Epstein gave the Beatles Beatle haircuts and dressed them in matching suits because he wanted to sell them to teen girls. They were always talented, but they wouldn't have been pop stars without screaming teenage girls.
 

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Don't understand the personal vendetta you have against Lorde.
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"Well, she ain't Fiona Apple, and if she ain't Fiona Apple, I don't give a rat's ass." :D
 

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I listen to Slacker and a few other streaming services. But Slacker never throws these songs into my mix. It knows that's not the kind of music I'm into.

Age has a lot to do with marketing, and pop music is driven by marketing. Brian Epstein gave the Beatles Beatle haircuts and dressed them in matching suits because he wanted to sell them to teen girls. They were always talented, but they wouldn't have been pop stars without screaming teenage girls.
I agree that once you become seasoned veterans (like us), you can generally avoid music genres you don't like. My wife will often be suprised that I'm not familiar with Katy Perry's latest, or a Pitbull song, or Pop in general. But some artists crossover to multiple categories that get to me via alternative music and the like.
 

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"Well, she ain't Fiona Apple, and if she ain't Fiona Apple, I don't give a rat's ass." :D
Uh, well actually, she's pretty much exactly like Fiona Apple in just about every way. Discovered as a young prodigy, deep mature jazzy voice, thoughtful anti-pop lyrics, billboard-topping debut, came up through the alternative music ranks. The only difference is we're much older now.
 
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A person literally can't be a one-hit wonder when they still have their entire career ahead of them. And Imagine Dragons would do well to be in the company of all those bands you mention.

She's literally a one-hit wonder until she scores another hit. By your reasoning, I'm a millionaire because I have the rest of my life to win the lottery.
 

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I agree that once you become seasoned veterans (like us), you can generally avoid music genres you don't like. My wife will often be suprised that I'm not familiar with Katy Perry's latest, or a Pitbull song, or Pop in general. But some artists crossover to multiple categories that get to me via alternative music and the like.
See, I don't even know what "alternative music" is. I just looked at the Billboard Alternative chart to try to get a feeling for it, and I'm still at a loss. To what is it an alternative? An alternative to popular music? Then how can it have its own Billboard chart and radio stations? Wouldn't those things indicate popularity?

I saw The Black Keys on those charts. I like them. I like some old Muse, and Jack White, too, but the other popular alternatives to popular music don't seem to be my cup of tea.

I've never been very plugged in when it came to music trends. I love the music I love a lot, but most of it sounds like dreck to me.
 

scotchandcigar

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She's literally a one-hit wonder until she scores another hit. By your reasoning, I'm a millionaire because I have the rest of my life to win the lottery.
Neither of your statements make any sense. By definition, the term "one-hit wonder" can only be associated with bands whose careers are over (or are viewed as being over). So nobody who's just scored their first hit is "literally" anything. And by the way, she has had 2 Billboard top 10 songs, so your categorization is already moot.

Just admit you don't like her and move on.
 

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Neither of your statements make any sense. By definition, the term "one-hit wonder" can only be associated with bands whose careers are over (or are viewed as being over). So nobody who's just scored their first hit is "literally" anything. And by the way, she has had 2 Billboard top 10 songs, so your categorization is already moot.

Just admit you don't like her and move on.

That was her dead cat bounce hit--a one-hit-wonder's second song that everyone wants to like, so it charts, but it's forgotten. And you can't go by Billboard to determine success. The Billboard charts and the Grammys are full of horrible acts making horrible songs that make modern listeners wonder WTF anyone was thinking back in 1973. For example, while the Stones have charted consistently (you can't ignore sales figures) and are generally regarded as one of the top five or so band of all time, they've won two Grammys in five decades. The point is, we'll remember Lorde, vaguely, for "Royals," and my money says that's it. She'll be on heroin or in porn (or both) in five years.
 
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scotchandcigar

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That was her dead cat bounce hit--a one-hit-wonder's second song that everyone wants to like, so it charts, but it's forgotten. And you can't go by Billboard to determine success. The Billboard charts and the Grammys are full of horrible acts making horrible songs that make modern listeners wonder WTF anyone was thinking back in 1973. For example, while the Stones have charted consistently (you can't ignore sales figures) and are generally regarded as one of the top five or so band of all time, they've won two Grammys in five decades. The point is, we'll remember Lorde, vaguely, for "Royals," and my money says that's it. She'll be on heroin or in porn (or both) in five years.
I personally have never liked pop music or had any regard for Billboard charts, so I have no idea who you're arguing to. You clearly have a disturbing level of animosity towards Lorde, who, if you bothered to check, is a super-intellectual, clean-living, upstanding kid. Your vitriol and ill-wishing has gotten to a scary point, so I'm going to end this here. There's not any more to say.
 

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I personally have never liked pop music or had any regard for Billboard charts, so I have no idea who you're arguing to. You clearly have a disturbing level of animosity towards Lorde, who, if you bothered to check, is a super-intellectual, clean-living, upstanding kid. Your vitriol and ill-wishing has gotten to a scary point, so I'm going to end this here. There's not any more to say.

You're the one who said she had two top 10 hits. That means top 10 on the Billboard charts, as opposed to top 10 at John F. Kennedy Middle School in Selena, Kansas.

I really don't have any animosity towards Lorde. I just know that we've seen acts like this come and go for decades, and that kids who experience fame early stand a better chance of becoming the next Bieber or LiLo. I do wish her all the best, and many years of chart-topping hits and intellectual, clean living. I just don't think it will happen.
 

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Pfft. It's not like he's the drummer.
No, he's the accordionist. Do you know how many accordionists have survived a 32 year record contract? One, and Weird Al is it. Frankie Yankovic might have made it if it hadn't been for that bad PCP in the Buenos Aires Hilton. His death grip was so strong they had to cut that chandelier down.
 

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I couldn't name you an accordionist who's ever signed a 32-year record contract. They usually burn out after 17 or 18 years. Polka lung.

I take comfort in the fact that Frankie has crossed the rainbow bridge and is jamming with Janis, Jimi and Keith. Moon, not Richards. Sorry, didn't mean to startle anyone.