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This was 1995 a little before he was recording with Trent. Heart's Filthy Lesson was the single.
NIN started playing their set, towards the end Bowie came out and sang with them, and one by one NON walks off the stage while Bowies band wandered onto the stage one at a time. After a couple of songs it was just Bowies band with Trent. A song or two later it was just Bowie and his band. They never stopped. The road crew was changing the set the whole time. Absolutely crazy to see.
 

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I suspect the NIN/Bowie 'migration and melding on stage' concept probably evolved from NIN being huge at the time and Bowie just exiting his 80s pop phase - so NIN fans didn't really know him, or want to. I remember the headlines back in the day talking about half the place emptying out when NIN finished and Bowie started. Not that Bowie is bad, the NIN fans just didn't know what they were missing. Probably just Bowie didn't say "fuck you like an animal" enough for them....

From an article written 1995:

After Reznor took his leave and the show became all Bowie, a fair amount of Nine Inch Nails fans likewise made their way to the exit.
 
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OK, here's where I usually give up. If we're talking about my favorite music, and the most meaningful, it has to start with the first 3 Chicago albums. I know that none of you really care about early Chicago, but if I'm going to put it out here, it's got to be included.

I've told this story before, but here it goes again. My older brother, who played trumpet and eventually got a music degree, was my main influence for exposure to music. He got me into Chicago and Blood Sweat & Tears when I was around 8; which is about the time that I was learning to read music and play an instrument.

Chicago Transit Authority was released in 1969. It was a double-album (as was II and III), and it was like nothing that ever existed. Instrumental/vocal fusion rock/ jazz/ blues/ pop. It was the primary thing I listened to for a couple of years. I know every song on these 3 albums like the back of my hand. There are 10 awesome songs on the 1st album. The 2nd and 3rd albums each contain 3 groups of multi-part compositions, plus additional songs. Among the hits are:
Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
Beginnings
Questions 67 and 68
Make Me Smile
25 or 6 to 4
Color My World
Lowdown

You can dial them up if you want, you've probably heard some of them 100 times. But here's a song from each of the first 3 albums that I'm featuring as favorites. The first two are from Chicago live at Tanglewood, and showcase the awesome talent of the late guitarist Terry Kath. Chicago is a jam band; the songs go on a long time. You can sample a little if you'd like. The 3rd clip is from the best and most talented tribute band, Leonid & Friends, who are awesome live.

Chicago – I’m a Man (live) [yes, it's a cover song]


Chicago – It Better End Soon (live)


Chicago – Free (Leonid & Friends)
 
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Not that Bowie is bad, the NIN fans just didn't know what they were missing. Probably just Bowie didn't say "fuck you like an animal" enough for them....
They didn't know. That's a shame.
After Reznor took his leave and the show became all Bowie, a fair amount of Nine Inch Nails fans likewise made their way to the exit.
One problem I had with Bowie on the tour was that he was being "artistic" and didn't want to sing his hits. It was almost all his lesser known stuff that he was proud of, but the audiences weren't really familiar with.

The only stuff he did were the things other people covered that he wanted to remind the audience that he wrote. Man Who Sold the World, Under Pressure, and one other. I enjoyed the show, but would have really liked to see him do the hits too.
 

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@scotchandcigar Chicago (the early years) is one of many bands I don't find myself sitting around and listening to much, but I bow and offer much respect to. Incredible musicianship. Unique sound. Top notch songwriting. Each song is more than just a song, it's an atmosphere and a journey. As recently as a few months ago, I was thinking that a hard rock band (like mine) would have a blast trying to pull of "25 or 6 to 4". That descending guitar riff would sound sweet with a chunky metal sound! And a lead guitarist doing the horn section? I'd love to pull that off!

@HecticArt If I were there to see NIN (I was huge NIN fan in the early to mid 90s), I would have liked Bowie to do "Space Oddity", "Fame", "Ashes To Ashes", "Suffragette City", "Heroes", "Under Pressure". He probably could have pulled off a darker performance of "Black Tie White Noise" and maybe a Tin Machine song too to get out of the 70s. I would have expected he'd play some of his 83-88 hits, despite not liking that era. Surprised he didn't. I know that Trent always talked highly of Bowie's album Low, so maybe that was the focus of his set?

I love "Heart's Filthy Lesson" (that's when I started paying attention to him again). Then 1997's "I'm Afraid Of Americans" was just as good. Throw "Lazarus" and "Killing A Little Time" in there and those are my four favorite post-1980s Bowie tracks.
 

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Chicago (the early years) is one of many bands I don't find myself sitting around and listening to much, but I bow and offer much respect to. Incredible musicianship. Unique sound. Top notch songwriting. Each song is more than just a song, it's an atmosphere and a journey. As recently as a few months ago, I was thinking that a hard rock band (like mine) would have a blast trying to pull of "25 or 6 to 4". That descending guitar riff would sound sweet with a chunky metal sound! And a lead guitarist doing the horn section? I'd love to pull that off!
That's about it.
If I were there to see NIN (I was huge NIN fan in the early to mid 90s), I would have liked Bowie to do "Space Oddity", "Fame", "Ashes To Ashes", "Suffragette City", "Heroes", "Under Pressure". He probably could have pulled off a darker performance of "Black Tie White Noise" and maybe a Tin Machine song too to get out of the 70s. I would have expected he'd play some of his 83-88 hits, despite not liking that era. Surprised he didn't. I know that Trent always talked highly of Bowie's album Low, so maybe that was the focus of his set?
There's so many great Bowie tunes. I even like the 80's stuff. Even though it's more poppy, it's got that right sound, right place thing going on.

Reeves from Tin Machine played with him on that tour. (I've got a Reeves signature model guitar that's one of my go-to's.)

From Setlist.FM October 3rd 1995 - Palace of Auburn Hills
I love "Heart's Filthy Lesson" (that's when I started paying attention to him again). Then 1997's "I'm Afraid Of Americans" was just as good. Throw "Lazarus" and "Killing A Little Time" in there and those are my four favorite post-1980s Bowie tracks.
I really liked the Filthy Lesson / Afraid of Americans stuff. That gritty raw side was a great contrast to the polished Modern Love era. Afraid of Americans has that big heavy sound and I'm not sure if it has more than one chord.
 
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@HecticArt I see three songs from Low on there, probably on there the same way if my band got ginormous then The Cure and I co-headlined, I'd want half of Disintegration on the setlist for me (screw the crowd I'm jamming with Robert HA!! And bring Reeves with ya, since he's Cure too) Yeah that feels like a list of mostly obscurities. I'm only very familiar with three of them (minus the NIN covers).
 
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I get why he wanted to play those tracks. It’s got to be boring AF as an artist to only play the same 15 songs you always play night after night, year after year when you’ve got a library of hundreds of songs that you’ve written. It’s got to be a treat for serious fans that really know his music well.

That was the only time I got to see him play, and I’m glad that I did. If I would have known the set list before, I would have gotten more familiar with those tracks, and not sat there wondering if he was going to play ______ next. It was still a great show. The people that left after NIN were suckers. Walking out on a legend is crazy to me. That’s why I saw Springsteen, McCartney, Clapton, BB King, and GnR. Those were all great shows too. I just knew more of the songs. ;)

BTW, that set list website is great. That’s redeems my confidence that the internet might actually be useful.
 

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Aside from Chicago and BS&T, some of my other formative musical paths include jazz and fusion, from Maynard Ferguson to John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra, including drummer Billy Cobham, and electric violinist Jean-Luc Ponty. I'll stay away from that here, and jump right into Prog Rock.

I was really into early Yes, including The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge. Of course I was still very young, so I didn't see them in concert until the 90125 tour. Here's a sampling of some of my favorite songs from each of the first 3 major album releases.

Yes – Starship Trooper, from The Yes Album


Yes – Roundabout (live), from Fragile


Yes – And You and I (live), from Close to the Edge
 
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Perhaps the greatest Prog Rock band there ever was, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, has to be on my favorites list. Three fantastic musicians. If you need a reminder of their talent, watch this

ELP – Hoedown (live ’73)


My favorite album of theirs is the landmark Brain Salad Surgery, containing the multi-part Karn Evil 9. The radio would play 1st Impression Part 2, but the best composition (while also including the same familiar verses) is 1st Impression Part 1; often considered the greatest single piece of Prog Rock.

ELP – Karn Evil 9 1st Impression, Pt. 1
 
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ELP is another band that has massive crazy talent... that I don't listen to. The owner of the company where I work likes 'em. He likes "Hoedown", and also "Fanfare For The Common Man" and their live version of "Peter Gunn". The only song I know well of theirs is "Lucky Man".

Solo, I love Greg Lake's "I Believe In Father Christmas". The guy who owns the studio where my band recorded 2011-2015 did a great updated version. And I dig Asia's three big hits (featuring Carl Palmer).
 

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ELP is another band that has massive crazy talent... that I don't listen to. The owner of the company where I work likes 'em. He likes "Hoedown", and also "Fanfare For The Common Man" and their live version of "Peter Gunn". The only song I know well of theirs is "Lucky Man".

Solo, I love Greg Lake's "I Believe In Father Christmas". The guy who owns the studio where my band recorded 2011-2015 did a great updated version. And I dig Asia's three big hits (featuring Carl Palmer).
Back in the day, I saw Asia live, in part to see Carl Palmer perform.
 

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ELP is another band that has massive crazy talent... that I don't listen to.
That's about right. I love the music and the musicianship is stellar, but they fall into my category of "they are a lot of work to listen to," so I don't seek them out very often.
Solo, I love Greg Lake's "I Believe In Father Christmas".
That's one of my favorite Christmas songs. (That, and the Kinks Father Christmas.)
When I used to play more guitar, I loved to play From the Beginning.
That's a good one to play. I had learned a chunk of it a long time ago.
Back in the day, I saw Asia live, in part to see Carl Palmer perform.
Do you have a framed Asia poster?

I actually would have liked to have seen them.
 
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That's about right. I love the music and the musicianship is stellar, but they fall into my category of "they are a lot of work to listen to," so I don't seek them out very often.
That's one of my favorite Christmas songs. (That, and the Kinks Father Christmas.)
Do you have a framed Asia poster?
No, but I have a Japan-import virgin vinyl album. It's about the size of a poster.
 
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