Political Talk Forum

[semipenguin]

I always felt they should have just left the old man alone. Let him die a disgrace.

Now he's someone the alt-right can parade around as a poster child.

Hopefully no one will assassinate him. Then he will be held up higher than ever

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Who cares about the constitution anyway. ....

You Americans are the ones who gave that power to the president. Usually on the parting week every president pardons a whole bunch of questionable characters. The only thing unusual about this one is it is 7 months into a term.

 

[memebag]

You Americans are the ones who gave that power to the president. Usually on the parting week every president pardons a whole bunch of questionable characters. The only thing unusual about this one is it is 7 months into a term.

Yeah, Trump isn't the first president to abuse that power. And in the list of Tump's abuses of power this one won't even make the top 10.

 

[JHDK]

The only thing unusual about this one is it is 7 months into a term.

Trump isn't the first president to abuse that power.

It's not that unusual. He's used his pardon power exactly once so far. It's a bit early to say he is abusing the power. Reagan started the pardon train 3 months into his presidency with deep throat Mark Felt. GHWB started using the power at the same point as Trump. He pardoned 9 people in August of 89. Carter used it on day 1 of his presidency for all draft dodgers.

 

[memebag]

It's not that unusual. He's used his pardon power exactly once so far. It's a bit early to say he is abusing the power. Reagan started the pardon train 3 months into his presidency with deep throat Mark Felt. GHWB started using the power at the same point as Trump. He pardoned 9 people in August of 89. Carter used it on day 1 of his presidency for all draft dodgers.

The abuse has nothing to do with how early it is.

 

[JHDK]

So the mere fact that he used it is considered an abuse?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

So the mere fact that he used it is considered an abuse?

If a president you don't like used it it is abuse.


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[JHDK]

If a president you don't like used it it is abuse.


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Bingo!

 

[memebag]

So the mere fact that he used it is considered an abuse?

No. Using it for political purposes to pardon a sheriff who knowlingly ignored a court order is abuse.

Clinton's Marc Rich pardon was abuse of power. He did it for personal reasons that didn't benefit the US.

Ford's pardon of Nixon was not abuse of power. He did it to help the US move past Watergate.

Pardoning Arpaio doesn't help America in any way. It panders to Trump's base, plain and simple.

 

[JHDK]

Pardon power is a cool perk of the gig.

Abuse implies an unlawful act being committed from an official capacity. None of these were abuse. Obama pardoning the murderer/terrorist Oscar Lopez Rivera was not abuse and neither is this.

 

[JHDK]

 

[HecticArt]

I think she's going to do well with whatever she chooses.

 

[JHDK]

This is real. As of right now it's his most recent like. And there are no little censored graphics in the real video. It's straight up hardcore porn. Whoever runs Ted's twitter is up to shenanigans.

 

[semipenguin]

This is real. As of right now it's his most recent like. And there are no little censored graphics in the real video. It's straight up hardcore porn. Whoever runs Ted's twitter is up to shenanigans.

Huckabee-Sanders

 

[HecticArt]

I think Pence hacked the account.

 

[semipenguin]

Stiffer...er, staffer

 

[JHDK]

2 great W. one liners in H Dog's new book:

 

[scotchandcigar]

...and then he went back to paintin' them pretty pictures.

 

[JHDK]

Neat.

 

[JHDK]