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I was listening to Michael Smerconish a couple days ago. He says he doesn't think that any of the candidates in the Democratic field can beat Trump. He said Hillary Clinton or Michael Bloomberg need to enter the field. That they're more electable than the others.

I tend to agree.

But how about Al Gore? Since 2000, he's never thrown his hat into the ring. I think he'd make a better candidate than Clinton or Bloomberg.

Any thoughts?
 
semipenguin said:
I was listening to Michael Smerconish a couple days ago. He says he doesn't think that any of the candidates in the Democratic field can beat Trump. He said Hillary Clinton or Michael Bloomberg need to enter the field. That they're more electable than the others.

I tend to agree.

But how about Al Gore? Since 2000, he's never thrown his hat into the ring. I think he'd make a better candidate than Clinton or Bloomberg.

Any thoughts?
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Yes, I have thoughts, and here they are. While I have often embraced the same populism stance as you - this country is so out-of-it, they only respond to well-known names - I don't think that's going to work now. Hillary needs to go away. Bloomberg is un-electable, because he's basically only supported by democrats. The fact that he was a member of the R party is meaningless. Al Gore hasn't left a good legacy for himself. The enviro people who like his work in that area, dislike him in other areas. The rest of the population just dislikes him.

Elizabeth Warren scares me. She's favored by the left end of the D party, which is good for a nomination, but bad for electability. She seems much more chipper than Biden, but she's still 70, so she's old too. I think that her and Sanders' ideas about interfering in corporate America is a turn-off for many voters, and it would never get anywhere with our congress anyway. Bernie Sanders has broad support from both dems and independents, but aside from his age, I think his ideas are too nutty to get elected also.

Biden is the well-known centrist name, but it's like Weekend at Bernie's; just keep him propped-up, and maybe no one will notice. And he has lots of baggage. To me, Kamala Harris is like the president character from a movie, but I don't think she has what it takes.

Nobody knew who Bill Clinton or Barack Obama were, before they ran. I'm hoping people will embrace mayor Pete, or Amy Klobuchar, or Tom Steyer - who's mostly unknown, but has enough money to run his own campaign. Otherwise, it'll have to be Biden, as I don't think any of the others are strong enough.
 
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Nobody knew who Bill Clinton or Barack Obama were, before they ran. I'm hoping people will embrace mayor Pete, or Amy Klobuchar, or Tom Steyer - who's mostly unknown, but has enough money to run his own campaign. Otherwise, it'll have to be Biden, as I don't think any of the others are strong enough.
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I spend most of my time in Minnesota, but even up here, they don't talk too much about Amy Klobuchar. It's Biden, Warren, and Col. Sanders.
 
scotchandcigar said:
Yes, I have thoughts, and here they are. While I have often embraced the same populism stance as you - this country is so out-of-it, they only respond to well-known names - I don't think that's going to work now. Hillary needs to go away. Bloomberg is un-electable, because he's basically only supported by democrats. The fact that he was a member of the R party is meaningless. Al Gore hasn't left a good legacy for himself. The enviro people who like his work in that area, dislike him in other areas. The rest of the population just dislikes him.

Elizabeth Warren scares me. She's favored by the left end of the D party, which is good for a nomination, but bad for electability. She seems much more chipper than Biden, but she's still 70, so she's old too. I think that her and Sanders' ideas about interfering in corporate America is a turn-off for many voters, and it would never get anywhere with our congress anyway. Bernie Sanders has broad support from both dems and independents, but aside from his age, I think his ideas are too nutty to get elected also.

Biden is the well-known centrist name, but it's like Weekend at Bernie's; just keep him propped-up, and maybe no one will notice. And he has lots of baggage. To me, Kamala Harris is like the president character from a movie, but I don't think she has what it takes.

Nobody knew who Bill Clinton or Barack Obama were, before they ran. I'm hoping people will embrace mayor Pete, or Amy Klobuchar, or Tom Steyer - who's mostly unknown, but has enough money to run his own campaign. Otherwise, it'll have to be Biden, as I don't think any of the others are strong enough.
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My wife seems to like Pete Buttigieg. I had never heard of him until I googled him. Opinion?
(my wife is an American.)
 
IdRatherBeSkiing said:
My wife seems to like Pete Buttigieg. I had never heard of him until I googled him. Opinion?
(my wife is an American.)
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That's mayor Pete who I mentioned. As a child, he won an essay contest, and was visited by one of the Kennedys. He's a Rhodes scholar, served in Afghanistan, and is a very good speaker. He's politically moderate, and he's gay. Also, he's probably not about to die. Plus, he's from the conservative midwest state of Indiana, which should offer a broader appeal than the northeastern liberals.
 
Sevier County (Tennessee) Commissioner Warren Hurst has certainly heard of Pete Buttigieg. His hateful, bigoted comments have spurred many people to call for a boycott of the county, which includes Dollywood, Ripley's Super Fun Zone and Guinness World Records Adventure.

www.businessinsider.com

Pete Buttigieg responded to homophobic comments made by a local Tennessee official, advocating for an 'approach with compassion'

"He's right that there is a gay man running for president, he doesn't seem to be right about much else," Buttigieg said.
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Responding to this news, the White House issued a statement calling the impeachment inquiry "unauthorized" (which it isn't) and "completely and irreversibly illegitimate" (which it isn't) and again saying Trump is being denied his "due process" (which he isn't). Trump has not yet been charged with any wrongdoing. The House is merely determining if the evidence justifies drawing up articles of impeachment and conducting a trial in the Senate. Trump will be given his "due process" if and when he's impeached.

House to vote on impeachment inquiry procedures

The House will vote this week to formalize the procedures of its impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, a step that comes after pressure from Republicans to hold a vote but will also undercut a key White House talking point.
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On Thursday the House will vote to to formalize the procedures of the impeachment inquiry into President Trump and Ukraine. Today the resolution was released by the House Rules Committee.

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Read: House impeachment resolution

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Monday the House would vote on Thursday to formalize the procedures of the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump and Ukraine, in what will be the first time the House will go on the record on the proceedings.
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I like this essay by author-journalist Jill Filipovic expressing dismay that certain people are calling a decorated Iraq war veteran and Ukraine expert a "traitor" while continuing to support and defend the person who really is a traitor.

Trump team's disgusting smear of Alexander Vindman

Donald Trump's lackeys in the media are selling out the American values that a decorated war hero is trying to uphold. Instead they disparage him in favor of a President they've turned into a king, writes Jill Filipovic. That's not patriotism -- it's a cult.
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