Jon
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The conservatives can blow it out their ass, the libertarians like me couldn't be happier.quick poll...which presidential candidate will have the most asinine response to the ruling?
my moneys on santorum or huckabee.
The conservatives can blow it out their ass, the libertarians like me couldn't be happier.quick poll...which presidential candidate will have the most asinine response to the ruling?
my moneys on santorum or huckabee.
Horrible people like him would be better off in some other country. How clueless do you have to be to react this way? Truthfully, nobody really gives a shit one way or another, all these guys are just taking this stance for political positioning. And when that's over, just move on.my guesses were wrong. ted cruz is the first out of the gate with the insanity.
“I’ve introduced a constitutional amendment that would protect the authority of state legislatures to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. We should pass that amendment,” Cruz told Hannity. “I’ve also introduced legislation stripping the federal courts of jurisdiction over legal assault on marriage.”
Cruz: Supreme Court rulings mean 'the darkest 24 hours' in history - Business Insider
darkest 24 hours...haha what a dick. im pretty sure there have been some harder times. civil war, pearl harbor, 9/11 are the first things i think of.
Horrible people like him would be better off in some other country. How clueless do you have to be to react this way? Truthfully, nobody really gives a shit one way or another, all these guys are just taking this stance for political positioning. And when that's over, just move on.
We should all marry Kate Upton, then
Me neither, but I can see how someone can be for gay marriage but against the Supreme Court telling states they can't ban it. It's good to be cautious when it comes to the courts interpreting this sort of civil rights stuff.Honestly I just don't get how you can be against gay marriage if you support freedom and equal rights.
Actual quote from Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas in his dissenting opinion: "Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved."
Let's drive Clarence to a cotton field in southern Virginia ( a short drive down 95), dress him in rags, work him 18 hours a day in the sun, feed him slop, let him sleep on a bug-infested straw matress in a log building, sell his children, whip and rape his wife and daughters, beat him when he doesn't work hard enough, deny him any possessions or hope of a better life, much less his freedom, and then see how dignified he feels.
Stupid mother f*cker. Gentlemen, I give you Uncle Tom.
OK, but I'm first.We should all marry Kate Upton, then
Me neither, but I can see how someone can be for gay marriage but against the Supreme Court telling states they can't ban it. It's good to be cautious when it comes to the courts interpreting this sort of civil rights stuff.
I have two explanations:I've always wondered why all these decisions are not 9-0. It's legal in the law or not. How can one truly unbiasly interpret something and have a split decision? This means the Supreme Justices are allowing their belief to interpret the law something which should not be happening at their level.
I realize this is idealistic and will never actually happen.
I've always wondered why all these decisions are not 9-0. It's legal in the law or not. How can one truly unbiasly interpret something and have a split decision? This means the Supreme Justices are allowing their belief to interpret the law something which should not be happening at their level.
I realize this is idealistic and will never actually happen.
At the highest level, it's because humans are trying to capture reality inside of an imperfect construct--language, and by extension law--and then determine if events match up with the reality described by that construct. Laws are ambiguous, no matter how fine a point people try to put on them. Premeditated murder carries a higher penalty than a crime of passion. But what's premeditated? What constitutes meditated? How long prior to the act did the meditation have to take place? And that's a simple question. Interpreting the intent of the Constitution as to whether or not forbidding homosexuals to marry violates their rights is a harder one.
Plus, the Supreme Court is full of whackos like Scalia and Thomas, and flip-floppers like John Roberts. That doesn't help matters.
So you're saying that Scalia was intelligent enough to hide his bigotry via a brilliant display of logical superiority. Like how a serial killer might lure-in and befriend their victims.I have two explanations:
First, the justices have different axioms about how the Constitution should be interpreted. Some are more strict, some more flexible.
My second explanation is much more cynical: Logic is our bitch. Humans are all driven by their base desires and instincts, and some are smart enough to use logic to hide it. The bedtt end up practicing law, and the best of those end up on the Supreme Court.
Not that I would ever do such a thing.
Not just Scalia, but all of them. They all make decisions based on what feels "right" and try to sculpt arguments to justify those decisions.So you're saying that Scalia was intelligent enough to hide his bigotry via a brilliant display of logical superiority. Like how a serial killer might lure-in and befriend their victims.
I did the same, I read interpretations of his dissent from several different sources, because (on it's surface) it seems unbelievable that anyone - let alone a black SCJ - would say this.holy shit, that quote is stunning. i had to look it up after reading ur post and he goes on to include the japanese that were interned during ww2.
It's always dangerous to express political opinions when one isn't allowed to discuss politics. It's something we all naturally do without thinking.This is turning into a thread bashing Supreme Court justices of a certain political view.
I thought better of the comment and decided to stay out of it, but it was to late when I deleted it.Did a post mysteriously disappear?