DRC Madness #23 - DRC All-Time Songs

Also, I for future rankings, I have decided to add a 6th tiebreaker. The 6th tiebreaker will be the Madness Position. This would have affected a couple of rankings already done but I am not going to go back and re-order.
 
Thanks for doing all this, it's fun.

I notice several songs so far that I nominated, but then ended up not voting for them. Lol
Yes, Several of you did that and in Jon's case nominated songs not on his top 200 while excluding songs on his top 200 (since I got his votes from his top 200).
 
The average points excluding the 0 point songs works out to 38 points. The average with the 0 point songs is 35 points. The mean of the list without the 0 point songs is 35. With the 0 point songs it's 32. I remember from statistics class in university that the mean was important in that it was different than average but for the life of me I can't remember why.
You stated this previously, and I explained what I knew, and there was no comment. I just don't understand what you posted here. If you're calculating an "average" and a "mean", you must know what you did to get them, so you know the difference. I'll reiterate that IMO "average" is a general term, while "mean" is a specific type of average. Mean is the sum of all entries divided by number of entries. It's what most people think of when they refer to an average. But there are actually two other kinds of averages, neither of which would be appropriate here.
 
You stated this previously, and I explained what I knew, and there was no comment. I just don't understand what you posted here. If you're calculating an "average" and a "mean", you must know what you did to get them, so you know the difference. I'll reiterate that IMO "average" is a general term, while "mean" is a specific type of average. Mean is the sum of all entries divided by number of entries. It's what most people think of when they refer to an average. But there are actually two other kinds of averages, neither of which would be appropriate here.
I went by my memory the first time. Mean I thought (from my dim recollection of stats class -- and I have not checked against your definition -- laziness) is simply the value of the middle entry in a sorted set. Average is the sum of the entries / number of entries. I think the difference is that if you have some really big or small values this can distort the average while the mean would usually give you the middle more accurately in most cases. As I said I did not update my wording as the error I made had no bearing on those calculations. And I did not use math for the mean. I just found the middle entry and used its value.
 
Mean I thought (from my dim recollection of stats class -- and I have not checked against your definition -- laziness) is simply the value of the middle entry in a sorted set.
That's "median". They use it for incomes, and house prices. It's typically used when you might have a few entries that are substantially out of range, without causing the average to seem wrong.

"Mean" is what you're calling average. And like I said, it's what people most commonly think of, when they use the term average.
 
Saturday Morning entry

#164: 24 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1.

Dancing With Myself by Billy Idol
Nominated by: nobody
#32: @WolFyre
#46: @sadchild

#162: 24 POINTS (2 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1.
No further tiebreakers were possible

Don't Go Back to Rockville by R.E.M.
Nominated by: @Jon
#27: @Jon

Epic by Faith No More
Nominated by: @sadchild
#27: @sadchild

#161: 25 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #6.

Mama Said Knock You Out by LL Cool J
Nominated by: @Jon
#26: @Jon

#160: 25 POINTS (1 song)
Won tiebreaker #6.

Heart of Glass by Blondie
Nominated by: @Aaron
#25: @Aaron
Madness Position: #17

#159: 26 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

In The Air Tonight by Phil Collins
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#27: @WolFyre
#49: @Aaron

#154: 26 POINTS (5 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1.
No further tiebreakers possible.

Burning Down The House by Talking Heads
Nominated by: @Jon
#25: @Jon
(I can't pass this song without this video: )



Della and The Dealer by Hoyt Axton
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#25: @IdRatherBeSkiing

Relax by Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Nominated by: @sadchild
#25: @sadchild

Take The Long Way Home by Supertramp
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#25: @scotchandcigar

Tonight's The NIght (Gonna Be Alright) by Rod Stewart
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#25: @WolFyre
 
That's "median". They use it for incomes, and house prices. It's typically used when you might have a few entries that are substantially out of range, without causing the average to seem wrong.

"Mean" is what you're calling average. And like I said, it's what people most commonly think of, when they use the term average.
Thanx. Like I said my stats class was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. And the professor was a monotone so it was one of the ones I caught up on my naps sometimes.
 
Saturday afternoon entry
#153: 27 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

Walking In Memphis by Mac Cohn
Nominated by: nobody
#28: @Channel98
#47: @sadchild
Madness Posiiton: #17
(this song would have lost tiebreaker #3 as well but would have won #6)

#148: 27 POINTS (5 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1
No further tiebreakers were possible

Bye Bye Bye by Nsync
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#24: @WolFyre

Fight For Your Right To Party by Beastie Boys
Nominated by: @sadchild
#24: @sadchild

Good Times by Chic
Nominated by: @Aaron
#24: @Aaron

Tempted by Squeeze
Nominated by: @Jon
#24: @Jon

Tragedy by The Bee Gees
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#24: @IdRatherBeSkiing

#147: 28 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode
Nominated by: @sadchild
#32: @Aaron
#42: @sadchild

#142: 28 POINTS (5 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1.
No further tiebreakers were possible.

Cinnamon Girl by Neil Young
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#23: @scotchandcigar

I Can't Drive 55 by Samy Hagar
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#23: @WolFyre

My Heros Have Always Been Cowboys by Willie Nelson
Nominated by: @Jon
#23: @Jon

My Life by Billy Joel
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#23: @IdRatherBeSkiing

Winter by Tori Amos
Nominated by: @sadchild
#23: @sadchild
 
Finally caught up: tonight's entries

#141: 29 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

Unchained by Van Halen
Nominated by: @sadchild
#28: @sadchild
#45: @Jon

#136: 29 POINTS (5 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1
No further tiebreakers possible.

Black #1 by Type O Negative
Nominated by: @sadchild
#22: @sadchild

Ring of Fire by Social Distortion
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#22: @IdRatherBeSkiing

Rockin' In The Free World by Neil Young
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#22: @scotchandcigar

Rosanna by Toto
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#22: @WolFyre

Where The Streets Have No Name by U2
Nominated by: @Jon
#22: @Jon

#135: 30 POINTS (1 song)
No tiebreakers required

Can't Cry Hard Enough by Williams Brothers
Nominated by: @sadchild
#21: @sadchild

#130: 31 POINTS (5 songs)
Lost tiebreaker #6.
No further tiebreakers possible.

Copperhead Road by Steve Earle
Nominated by: @Jon
#20: @Jon

Deacon Blues by Steely Dan
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#20: @scotchandcigar

Joey by Concrete Blonde
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#20: @IdRatherBeSkiing

Prison Sex by Tool
Nominated by @sadchild
#20: @sadchild

We Don't Need Another Hereo (Thunderdome) by Tina Turner
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#20: @WolFyre

#129: 31 POINTS (1 song)
Won tiebreaker #6

Kashmir by Led Zeppelin
Nominated by: @Aaron
#20: @Aaron
Madness Position: #17

#123: 32 POINTS (6 songs)
No tiebreakers possible.

Blue Sky Mine by Midnight Oil
Nominated by: @Jon
#19: @Jon

California Dreamin' by The Mamas & The Papas
Nominated by: @Aaron
#19: @Aaron

Closer To Fine by Indigo Girls
Nominated by: @sadchild
#19: @sadchild

Demonoid Phenimenon by Rob Zombie
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#19: @WolFyre

I've Seen All Good People by Yes
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#19: @scotchandcigar

Melody by The Boys' Brigade
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#19: @IdRatherBeSkiing
 
#121: 33 POINTS (2 songs)
No tiebreaker was possible.

Fortunate Son by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Nominated by: @Jon
#18: @Jon

Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#18: @IdRatherBeSkiing

#120: 34 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

Jump by Van Halen
Nominated by: @sadchild
#31: @Channel98
#37: @sadchild

#119: 34 POINTS (1 song)
Won tiebreaker #1.

Larger Than Life by Backstreet Boys
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#17: @WolFyre

#116: 35 POINTS (3 songs)
Lost tiebreaker #4.
No further tiebreakers possible

Can't You Hear Me Knocking by Rolling Stones
Nominated by: @Jon
#16: @Jon

Inside The Fire by Disturbed
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#16: @WolFyre

Power Windows by Billy Falcon
Nominated by: @sadchild
#16: @sadchild

#115: 35 POINTS (1 song)
Won tiebreaker #4.

Don't Be Cruel by Elvis Presley
Nominated by: @Aaron
#16: @Channel98

#112: 36 POINTS (3 songs)
No tiebreakers possible.

Bombshelll by Powerman 5000
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#15: @WolFyre

Clown by Korn
Nominated by: @sadchild
#15: @sadchild

Roll Me Way by Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#15: @IdRatherBeSkiing
 
This will take us into the top 100 which will start tonight.

#111: 37 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

Maybe I'm Amazed by Paul McCartney
(aside: until right now I always thought it was "Baby I'm Amazed")
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#16: @scotchandcigar
#49: @Channel98

#108: 37 POINTS (3 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1
No further tiebreakers possible

I Don't Want THis Night To End by Luck Bryan
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#14: @WolFyre

Middle of The Road by The Pretenders
Nominated by: @Jon
#14: @Jon

Nightflight To Venus / Rasputin by Boney M
(this song has disappeared from all radio playlists -- Oh those Russians)
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#14: @IdRatherBeSkiing

#104: 38 POINTS (4 songs)
Lost tiebreaker #6
No further tiebreakers possible

Freedom by Rage Against The Machine
Nominated by: @sadchild
#13: @sadchild

I Want You by Savage Garden
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#13: @WolFyre

In My Life by The Beatles
Nominated by: @Aaron
#13: @Aaron

Remedy by Black Crowes
Nominated by: @Jon
#13: @Jon

#103: 38 POINTS (1 song)
Won tiebreaker #6

Come On Eileen by Dexy's Midnight Runners
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#13: @IdRatherBeSkiing
Madness Position: #17
 
#102: 39 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1
Ordered by tiebreaker #1

Cum On Feel The Noize by Quiet Riot
Nominated by: @sadchild
#26: @sadchild
#37: @WolFyre

#101: 39 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1
Ordered by tiebreaker #1

All Night Long (All Night) by Lionel Richie
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#18: @WolFyre
#45: @Channel98

And now into the top 100:

#99: 39 POINTS (2 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1.
No further tiebreakers possible.

Cherub Rock by Smashing Pumpkins
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#12: @scotchandcigar



Fear of Flying by Kix
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#12: @IdRatherBeSkiing
 
#98: 40 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1.
Ordered by tiebreaker #1.

Live & Let DIe by Paul McCartney & Wings
Nominated by: @Channel98
#26: @scotchandcigar
#36: @Channel98



#97: 40 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1
Ordered by tiebreaker #1

In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel
Nominated by: @sadchild
#21: @WolFyre
#41: @sadchild



#95: 40 POINTS (2 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1
Lost tiebreaker #6
No further tiebreakers possible

Fascination Street by The Cure
Nominated by: @sadchild
#11: @sadchild



I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen
Nominated by: @Jon
#11: @Jon



#94: 40 POINTS (1 song)
Won tiebreaker #1
Won tiebreaker #6

Walk of Life by Dire Straits
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#11: @IdRatherBeSkiing
Madness Position: #9
 
Just a note that moving forward, songs in the list with only one voter will be from someone's top 10 list. Also, I may have to do multiple posts since DRC has video limit of 5 videos per post.
 
#93: 41 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1

I Want You Back by Jackson 5
Nominated by: @Aaron
#22: @Channel98
#39: @Aaron




#89: 41 POINTS (4 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1
Lost tiebreaker #4
No further tiebreakers possible.

China by Tori Amos
Nominated by: @sadchild
#10: @sadchild



Fireball by Pitbul
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#10: @WolFyre



Still The Same by Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
Nominated by: @IdRatherBeSkiing
#10: @IdRatherBeSkiing



The Spirit of Radio by Rush
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#10: @scotchandcigar
 
#87: 42 POINTS (1 song)
Lost tiebreaker #1.

It's The End of the World As We Know It by R.E.M.
Nominated by: @Channel98
#28: @Jon
#32: @Channel98



#83: 42 POINTS (4 songs)
Won tiebreaker #1
No further tiebreakers possible.

Let's Go Crazy by Prince and The Revolution
Nominated by: @Jon
#9: @Jon



Ruby Tuesday by The Rolling Stones
Nominated by: @Channel98
#9: @Channel98



Suffragette City by David Bowie
Nominated by: @scotchandcigar
#9: @scotchandcigar



What Was I Thinkin by Dierks Bently
Nominated by: @WolFyre
#9: @WolFyre
 
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