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It probably didn't help him long-term, but the hype that it was some career-ender is just that.
From Billy himself...

Your now-infamous video for '84s hit "Rock Me Tonite" featuring you dancing flamboyantly around your apartment is often credited with harming your career. Is this an overstatement or an understatement'!

I'd say it's an understatement! I think that's probably the most damning four minutes of video ever shot in history! Well, from my perspective it is!'

Were you even happy to do it at the time'

'No, not at all! But, often times you'll get caught up in a sequence of events. There's a sequence here after it's done ' but you don't see it clearly while it's going on ' but here's what happened. I was making 'Signs Of Life' in England and we knew it was going to be a hit. We knew that 'Rock Me Tonite' was going to be a bit hit - as well in as much as you can tell ' so we went through a lot of directors for that video. Directors who wanted to push a particular moralistic stamp onto my music. We started off with one high profile director, but the situation deteriorated rather quickly, Then we got another director who was very successful, but started doing the same thing and so we suddenly found ourselves in June, the record was coming out in July and the record company already had an exclusive MTV air date. And so here you are without a video! So then appeared this fellow who was a very well known choreographer who had what seemed to be a pretty unique idea about taking me away from the band and cataloging all my moves. So I thought that it sounded very interesting, the fact that we were exploring a different aspect of my performing persona. And so that's how I went into it. But then what came out of it was clearly something different in terms of the way it ended up being staged. The look of the video had not even been what I wanted. It had not been set out like I'd have wished. And again, this was all happening at the 11th hour. And so, the rest is now history! It knocked me right off the top of the mountain and I never got back! And it wasn't for a lack of trying. I made four records after that all of which were up to the previous standard if not higher. But, nobody cared. People saw the video and just decided that I'd lost the plot and ' next!'


That being said, my favorite Squier album is Hear & Now, released in 1989 (five years after "Rock Me Tonight"). Rock radio around here played a few songs from that album for several months. So I don't think it ended his career, but it took him down several notches in the biz.
 

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9: BREAKIN'…THERE'S NO STOPPING US - OLLIE AND JERRY

No recollection of ever hearing this back in the 80s.
The song was from the movie Breakin'. I remember it from there. It did well on the R&B chart so I probably heard it on the radio too.

7: SAD SONGS (SAY SO MUCH) - ELTON JOHN

Selling out says so much.
Bam!

#75 M+M "Black Stations/White Stations"

Interesting lyrics

A voice inside my car told me today
There was a song of love they would not play
She was black, he was white
A voice inside my car told me today
Black stations, white stations break down the doors
Stand up and face the music, this is 1984
This hit #2 on the dance chart too.

#76 Style Council "You're the Best Thing"
This should have charted higher, #5 UK.

#79 Cherelle "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On"
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis produced this one (pre Robert Palmer), #8 R&B

#86 Bus-Boys "Cleanin' Up the Town"
I remember seeing them on TV a lot.

#88 Grandmaster Melle Mel "Beatstreet"
The movies Breakin' and Beatstreet came out around the same time. Breatstreet sucked.
 
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I posted Weird Al Yankovic's Polkas On 45. I didn't realize Mister sadchild had already posted it. That's my fault for not scrolling – but I can redeem myself. Weird Al has recorded eleven polka medleys. Here is Polka Power!, which includes (among others) MMMBop, Wannabe, Push, Tubthumping and Semi-Charmed Life:





And The Alternative Polka, which includes (among others) Loser, Basket Case, Black Hole Sun and You Oughta Know:


 
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The question has been asked: After Ollie & Jerry's Breakin'...There's No Stopping Us, were there any later hits by someone named Ollie? No, none, other than Ollie & Jerry's follow-up single, Electric Boogaloo, which got to #45 on the R&B chart in January 1985.

Ollie & The Nightingales, a Memphis R&B group led by Ollie Hoskins, recorded five singles for Stax, 1968-70. Three made the R&B chart. The biggest was I Got A Sure Thing, which reached #16 in May 1968. Hoskins charted two R&B songs in 1971 and 1972 calling himself "Ollie Nightingale." I can find only one other chart single by someone named Ollie – and she recorded it as "Marie Adams." Her real name was Ollie Marie Givens. I'm Gonna Play The Honky Tonks was a #3 R&B hit in July 1952.

There is a British alt-rock musician named Ollie Taylor but none of his songs have charted anywhere.


And on a related (but not very) note, on July 22, 1956, Buddy Holly & The Three Tunes recorded two songs for Decca, That'll Be The Day and Rock Around With Ollie Vee. The latter song, written by Sonny Curtis, was about a girl named Ollie Vee and was supposedly about dancing – but we know what it was really about. Both songs remained unreleased until September 1957. After a new version of That'll Be The Day by Buddy Holly & The Crickets (on Brunswick Records) became a hit. Decca finally released the original single.
 
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The 10 songs below the 100 from 8/4/1984:

Bubbling Under The Hot 100
#101 Andy Fraser "Fine, Fine Fine" (peaked at this position)
#102 The Brothers Johnson "You Keep Me Coming Back" (peaked at this position, #12 R&B)
#103 Lakeside "Outrageous" (peaked at #101, #7 R&B)
#104 J.D. Souther "Go Ahead and Rain" (peaked at this position)
#105 Duke Jupiter "Rescue Me" (peaked at #101)
#106 Russ Ballard "Two Silhouettes" (peaked at this position)
#107 The Greg Kihn Band "Rock" (peaked at this position)
#108 S.O.S. Band "Just The Way You Like It" (entered the Hot 100 at #87 on 8/11/84, peaked at #64, #6 R&B)
#109 Kashif "Baby Don't Break Your Baby's Heart" (peaked at #108, #6 R&B)
#110 Nick Lowe "Half A Boy and Half A Man" (peaked at this position)

I made a playlist of the tracks and added the video when available. The video for Lakeside's "Outrageous" is outrageous. It's an Indiana Jones theme video that took things way too far.

 

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How many songs besides Baby Don't Break Your Baby's Heart had the word "baby" two or more times in the title? Does anyone want to know? No? Nobody? Okay, there have been more than two hundred. Among the biggest – each of these was released as a single – are Baby Baby by Amy Grant, Baby Baby Baby by TLC, Baby Baby Baby by Teresa Brewer, Baby Baby Baby by Anna King & Bobby Byrd, Baby Baby Baby Baby Baby by R. Kelly, Baby Baby Be Good To Me by the McGuire Sisters, Baby Me Baby by Roger Miller, Baby Me Baby by Johnny Duncan, Baby My Baby by Margo Smith, Baby Baby All The Time by Julie London, Baby Baby All The Time by Frankie Laine and Baby Baby All The Time by the Superbas,

There was My Baby's Baby by Liquid Gold, Ooh Baby Baby by the Miracles, Ooh Baby Baby by the Five Stairsteps, Ooh Baby Baby by Linda Ronstadt, Ooh Baby Baby by Honey Cone, Ooh Baby Baby by Shalamar, Baby Baby Every Night by Etta James, Baby Baby Please by Timothy Wilson, Baby Baby Bye Bye by Jerry Lee Lewis, Baby Baby Don't Stop Now by Sam & Dave, Baby Baby I Know You're A Lady by David Houston, Baby Baby My Love's All For You by Deniece Williams, Baby Oh Baby by the Shells, Baby Baby Don't Cry by the Miracles, Baby You'll Be My Baby by the Oak Ridge Boys and Baby's Got A New Baby by Schuyler, Knoblock & Overstreet.

Here is the Jerry Lee Lewis song, released in January 1960 by Sun Records. Lewis co-wrote the song with Huey "Piano" Smith.


 

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I remember seeing them on TV a lot.
I remember them from an Eddie Murphy routine.

Being a comic though ain't like being no singer. The singers get all the pussy. Like the Bus Boys: they fuck everybody.
Bus Boys will fuck anything that moves.
(They) come to my house, the fish stop swimming.
They don't play. Singers gets pussy. Because you don't have to, even you don't have to look good, you can sing and get pussy. Just be interesting.


How many songs besides Baby Don't Break Your Baby's Heart had the word "baby" two or more times in the title?
You read my mind!!
The video for Lakeside's "Outrageous" is outrageous. It's an Indiana Jones theme video that took things way too far.
Those special effects!! That acting!!

The only Lakeside I know (before watching that video) is "Fantastic Voyage" because Coolio turned this into this.
 
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From Billy himself...

Your now-infamous video for '84s hit "Rock Me Tonite" featuring you dancing flamboyantly around your apartment is often credited with harming your career. Is this an overstatement or an understatement'!

I'd say it's an understatement! I think that's probably the most damning four minutes of video ever shot in history! Well, from my perspective it is!'

Were you even happy to do it at the time'

'No, not at all! But, often times you'll get caught up in a sequence of events. There's a sequence here after it's done ' but you don't see it clearly while it's going on ' but here's what happened. I was making 'Signs Of Life' in England and we knew it was going to be a hit. We knew that 'Rock Me Tonite' was going to be a bit hit - as well in as much as you can tell ' so we went through a lot of directors for that video. Directors who wanted to push a particular moralistic stamp onto my music. We started off with one high profile director, but the situation deteriorated rather quickly, Then we got another director who was very successful, but started doing the same thing and so we suddenly found ourselves in June, the record was coming out in July and the record company already had an exclusive MTV air date. And so here you are without a video! So then appeared this fellow who was a very well known choreographer who had what seemed to be a pretty unique idea about taking me away from the band and cataloging all my moves. So I thought that it sounded very interesting, the fact that we were exploring a different aspect of my performing persona. And so that's how I went into it. But then what came out of it was clearly something different in terms of the way it ended up being staged. The look of the video had not even been what I wanted. It had not been set out like I'd have wished. And again, this was all happening at the 11th hour. And so, the rest is now history! It knocked me right off the top of the mountain and I never got back! And it wasn't for a lack of trying. I made four records after that all of which were up to the previous standard if not higher. But, nobody cared. People saw the video and just decided that I'd lost the plot and ' next!'


That being said, my favorite Squier album is Hear & Now, released in 1989 (five years after "Rock Me Tonight"). Rock radio around here played a few songs from that album for several months. So I don't think it ended his career, but it took him down several notches in the biz.
Exactly. But most places on the internet if you bring it up, people will claim fans were burning his records in the streets. Which is nonsense.
 
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Mars Incorporated obviously felt the name M+M did not infringe on the trademark of M&M's candy. Otherwise there would have been a lawsuit. Similarly, Rowntree (acquired by Nestlé in 1988) obviously saw nothing wrong with the name of this mid-1960s Philadelphia band:


 

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Mars Incorporated obviously felt the name M+M did not infringe on the trademark of M&M's candy. Otherwise there would have been a lawsuit.
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1989

EARLIER
Poison "Every Rose" 88/89
Sheriff "When I'm With You"
Bobby Brown "My Prerogative"
Phil Collins "Two Hearts"
Paula Abdul "Straight Up"
Debbie Gibson "Lost In Your Eyes"
Madonna "Like A Prayer"
Fine Young Canniabls "She Drives Me"
Bangles "Eternal Flame"
Paula Abdul "Forever Your Girl"
Mike & The Mechanics "The Living Years"
Bon Jovi "I'll Be There For You"
Milli Vanilli "Baby Don't Forget"
Simply Red "If You Don't Know Me"
Martika "Toy Soldiers"
Richard Marx "Satisfied"
Fine Young Cannibals "Good Thing"

New Kids On The Block "Hanging Tough"
Prince "Batdance"
Richard Marx "Right Here Waiting"

LATER
Paula Abdul "Cold Hearted"
Milli Vanilli "Girl I'm Gonna Miss"
Janet Jackson "Miss You Much"
Billy Joel "We Didn't Start The Fire"
Milli Vanilli "Blame It On The Rain"
Phil Collins "Another Day In Paradise" 89/90
 

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40. ONE - BEE GEES
39. GOOD THING - FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS
38. THE PRISONER - HOWARD JONES
37. WHO DO YOU GIVE YOUR LOVE TO - MICHAEL MORALES
36. SOUL PROVIDER - MICHAEL BOLTON
35. GIRL I'M GONNA MISS YOU - MILLI VANILLI
34. WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW - EXPOSE
33. TALK IT OVER - GRAYSON HUGH
32. BABY DON'T FORGET MY NUMBER - MILLI VANILLI
31. COVER OF LOVE - MICHAEL DAMIAN
30. HEAVEN - WARRANT
29. DRESSED FOR SUCCESS - ROXETTE
28. CRAZY ABOUT HER - ROD STEWART
27. IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME - CHER
26. 18 AND LIFE - SKID ROW
25. SHOWER ME WITH YOUR LOVE - SURFACE
24. EXPRESS YOURSELF - MADONNA
23. HOOKED ON YOU - SWEET SENSATION
22. KEEP ON MOVIN' - SOUL II SOUL
21. HEADED FOR A HEARTBREAK - WINGER
20. SACRED EMOTION - DONNY OSMOND
19. HEY BABY - HARRY LEE SUMMER
18. ANGEL EYES - JEFF HEALEY BAND
17. NO MORE RHYME - DEBBIE GIBSON
16. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ME BY NOW - SIMPLY RED
15. I'M THAT TYPE OF GUY - L.L. COOL J.
14. THE END OF THE INNOCENCE - DON HENLEY
13. FRIENDS - JODY WATLEY WITH ERIC B AND RAKIM
12. SECRET RENDEVOUZ - KARYN WHITE
11. HANGIN' TOUGH - NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK
10. TOY SOLDIERS - MARTIKA
9. DON'T WANNA LOSE YOU - GLORIA ESTEFAN
8. LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME - BON JOVI
7. I LIKE IT - DINO
6. COLD HEARTED - PAULA ABDUL
5. ONCE BITTEN TWICE SHY - GREAT WHITE
4. SO ALIVE - LOVE AND ROCKETS
3. BATDANCE - PRINCE
2. ON OUR OWN - BOBBY BROWN
1. RIGHT HERE WAITING - RICHARD MARX