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Our postal code is a covid hotspot so they are doing popup clinics where they are vaccinating everbody 18+. You line up in the morning for a ticket which has an appointment time on it then you come back then for your shot. We tried for my son for 2 different clinics and he was unable to get a slot. Today he got one and now has been vaccinated. He got the phizer one. Will get his next in 4 months. He got Phizer since they don't give AtraZenica to anybody under 30 in Canada (40 in Ontario). But this clinic was all Phizer.
 
This story belongs not only in this thread but in the Florida thread and the Dumb Dodo thread. Of course we all know I never double-post or triple-post anything.....er, uh, harrumph!.....so I will post it here. The husband and wife who founded this school are anti-vaxxers. Yeah, at least until they contract COVID-19.

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A private school founded by an anti-vaccination activist in South Florida has warned teachers and staff against taking the COVID-19 vaccine, saying it will not employ anyone who has received the shot. The Centner Academy in Miami sent a notice to parents on Monday informing them of a new policy...
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Channel98 said:
This story belongs not only in this thread but in the Florida thread and the Dumb Dodo thread. Of course we all know I never double-post or triple-post anything.....er, uh, harrumph!.....so I will post it here. The husband and wife who founded this school are anti-vaxxers. Yeah, at least until they contract COVID-19.

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Anti-vaccine private school - AOL

A private school founded by an anti-vaccination activist in South Florida has warned teachers and staff against taking the COVID-19 vaccine, saying it will not employ anyone who has received the shot. The Centner Academy in Miami sent a notice to parents on Monday informing them of a new policy...
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I sense a court ruling coming.

From the article:
claimed that unvaccinated women have experienced miscarriages and other reproductive problems just by standing in proximity to vaccinated people.
 
Channel98 said:
This story belongs not only in this thread but in the Florida thread and the Dumb Dodo thread. Of course we all know I never double-post or triple-post anything.....er, uh, harrumph!.....so I will post it here. The husband and wife who founded this school are anti-vaxxers. Yeah, at least until they contract COVID-19.

www.aol.com

Anti-vaccine private school - AOL

A private school founded by an anti-vaccination activist in South Florida has warned teachers and staff against taking the COVID-19 vaccine, saying it will not employ anyone who has received the shot. The Centner Academy in Miami sent a notice to parents on Monday informing them of a new policy...
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People are SO FUCKING STUPID.
 
Big sigh of relief here...

For months now, I've been dreading the inevitable return to work announcement.

Hasn't happened yet, but our workplace did send out a policy update that says that even once all restrictions are lifted and things return to normal, we will only be obligated to work from the office 2 days per week.

I can totally accept 2 days per week - was not eager to return to the grind 5 days a week.
 
Here is another idiot who is playing doctor. Spotify's most popular podcaster is telling people who are young and healthy and exercising and eating well that they don't need to get the COVID-19 vaccine. Wow.

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'That's Incorrect': Fauci Dismantles Joe Rogan's False And Selfish Vaccination Advice

The podcaster's view of vaccines is OK "if you want to only worry about yourself and not society," the government's top infectious diseases expert said.
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The shot is available to everyone for free and nearly 100% effective. By now everyone who wants it has had the ability to get it. If people decided they don't want it that's fine, but it should not be my concern if they get the virus. If you don't want the shot and wind up getting corona then that's on you. I shouldn't have to keep altering my life to protect others who have decided they don't care. A week after my second shot I don't plan on wearing a mask anywhere it's not legally required (which is everywhere in FL) or required by company policy.

Also Rogan said that young, healthy people shouldn't worry about getting the shot. That's kinda true. Very few young Americans (15-24 years old) died of corona last year. 587 to be exact. Way more in that age group died of suicide. And that stat doesn't take into consideration how many of those young people had preexisting conditions or were in bad physical shape. So yea, people say the young and healthy should get the shot to prevent the spread to others but that goes back to the point I made in my first paragraph. It shouldn't be on others to protect the part of the population who willfully avoided getting the vaccine.
 
हम सब मरने वाले हैं! The COVID-19 death toll in India has now surpassed 211,000. More than 3,500 have died in the past 24 hours. Only 2% of people in India have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19. On the advice of the CDC, the Biden administration will restrict travel from India to the United States.

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Biden administration to restrict travel from India starting Tuesday

The Biden administration has confirmed that the US will restrict travel from India starting on Tuesday in response to the surge of coronavirus cases and variants being observed in the country.
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JHDK said:
The shot is available to everyone for free and nearly 100% effective. By now everyone who wants it has had the ability to get it. If people decided they don't want it that's fine, but it should not be my concern if they get the virus. If you don't want the shot and wind up getting corona then that's on you. I shouldn't have to keep altering my life to protect others who have decided they don't care. A week after my second shot I don't plan on wearing a mask anywhere it's not legally required (which is everywhere in FL) or required by company policy.

Also Rogan said that young, healthy people shouldn't worry about getting the shot. That's kinda true. Very few young Americans (15-24 years old) died of corona last year. 587 to be exact. Way more in that age group died of suicide. And that stat doesn't take into consideration how many of those young people had preexisting conditions or were in bad physical shape. So yea, people say the young and healthy should get the shot to prevent the spread to others but that goes back to the point I made in my first paragraph. It shouldn't be on others to protect the part of the population who willfully avoided getting the vaccine.
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I have big problems with a lot of this. When you decide to walk around without a mask, how would anyone know whether you're vaccinated? Most states still have mask laws for this reason.

Who is Joe Rogan to tell anyone anything? He's just some asshole with a podcast. Why would he get involved in providing guidance for public policy?

The number of young people getting covid has been skyrocketing the past few months, so your numbers are way off. Plus, deaths aren't important, it's the number of them getting it, and giving it to others.

Finally, it's not 100% effective. It might not even be 80% for some strains. Thinking you're 100% safe is foolish.
 
scotchandcigar said:
Finally, it's not 100% effective. It might not even be 80% for some strains. Thinking you're 100% safe is foolish.
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From cdc.gov
Based on evidence from clinical trials, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 illness in people who received two doses who had no evidence of being previously infected.

I don't believe I will be 100% protected. However, after having both shots I am willing to take the rather small risk in order to get back to living a normal life.

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Who is Joe Rogan to tell anyone anything? He's just some asshole with a podcast. Why would he get involved in providing guidance for public policy?
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Do you think the same thing about celebrities who go around telling people to get the vaccination? If so then cool, I don't have an argument. If not, that's just random assholes providing guidance for public policy too.

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When you decide to walk around without a mask, how would anyone know whether you're vaccinated? Most states still have mask laws for this reason.
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I don't care what other people think. I made it clear I'm not going to break any laws or company policies. Randos on the street can think whatever they want.

And it's not "most states". Currently it's an even split of states with and without mandates.
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Does Your State Have a Mask Mandate Due to Coronavirus?

States, cities and counties have largely eased requirements that people wear face masks in public to curb COVID. Find out the rules in your state.
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Plus, deaths aren't important, it's the number of them getting it, and giving it to others.
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Deaths aren't important? Ok, whatever. And that was my whole point. The vaccine mostly prevents the spread. If you don't want to get it, get the shot. Don't force everyone else to alter their lives because of your choices.
 
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In general, too many people put too much stake into the babbling of various celebrities and sports figures. Do we really care what LeBron James thinks? Or some podcast guy (whom I have never heard of). Also the podcast guy has since retracted his statement saying he hadn't heard Fuci's argument and it makes sense.

I am with JDHK on this one. Once we get enough people vaccinated up here its time to release us from the never ending lockdown. I am ok with the mask for a bit but let's open up the sporting events and concerts and restaurants. Enough is enough.
 
JHDK said:
From cdc.gov
Based on evidence from clinical trials, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 illness in people who received two doses who had no evidence of being previously infected.

I don't believe I will be 100% protected. However, after having both shots I am willing to take the rather small risk in order to get back to living a normal life.
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Did you also read this?

the antibodies produced by the Moderna vaccine are less effective against B.1.351 than against the original version of the virus.

It's less than 94% overall. If you come across many people everyday, there's a non-trivial risk.
JHDK said:
Do you think the same thing about celebrities who go around telling people to get the vaccination? If so then cool, I don't have an argument. If not, that's just random assholes providing guidance for public policy too.
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Of course not. I'm not under the delusion that truth is subjective. I endorse good advice, but object to bad advice. When it comes to facts, there's only one truth.

It's heartwarming that you don't care about other people, but you're missing the point. You will be seen as a risk by others, and treated as such. Because most people who care enough to get vaccinated will wear a mask around others.

And what's with the out of context quoting? Is this the NY Post? Dead people are not a health risk to me, but people carrying covid are.

Btw, today Joe Rogan said "I'm not a doctor, I'm a fucking idiot".
 
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