IdRatherBeSkiing
Sherbert is NOT and NEVER WILL BE ice cream.
Or a over-hyped celebrity.
We're All Going to Die
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JHDK
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So I have the same questions again...breakthrough cases are very low for vaccinated people. So why are we being forced to wear masks indoors? I am fully in favor of people not getting the vax if they are wackos but I am completely opposed to those dumbasses forcing me to take precautions to protect them. They made their choice. I don't care about their health if they want to be stupid.
IdRatherBeSkiing
Sherbert is NOT and NEVER WILL BE ice cream.
I agree with you. The focus should be on making sure anybody entering a public space is either vaccinated or has a mask. But it is easier for blanket mask wearing than to do that check.
scotchandcigar
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In general, that's how we are living our lives right now. We don't wear a mask anywhere - except when we had blood drawn at a hospital - and we don't feel we're risking ourselves. Also, the places we go to are still keeping things somewhat spaced apart.
However, the unvaxxed shitheads are still spreading it, and you can't trust these people - who don't give a crap about anyone - to wear a mask in close spaces. So they have to require that everyone wear a mask. It's like any other public law; speed limits, stop signs, traffic lights, etc. I'm smart enough to yield to other traffic at an intersection, without having to sit there for 30 seconds, when nobody is coming. But it's a law that I have to wait, because otherwise there'd be a crash every day.
JHDK
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These are fair points. But aren't the unvaccinated really only putting each other at risk? I wholeheartedly don't care about people who have refused the vax. They have had ample time to get it so if I give them Covid or they catch it from each other it's their own fault. I know you can still get it being fully vax'ed but it's way less serious. Look at the current stats, it's crazy, something like 99% of people in FL hospitals with Covid are unvax'ed. I assume it's similar in every other state.
I went to Publix yesterday. The sign on the door still reads that only unvax'ed need masks but pretty much everyone in there was wearing one so I did too. With all this news of the new variant it seems we are back to masks inside even though DeSantis has made it clear he will not issue mandates in FL. On the other hand Disney requires masks in all indoor spaces now. I assume it's to cover their ass. Even though the state doesn't require it the fact that they do means that if someone gets Covid in the park they will have trouble suing cause Disney can say they were following CDC guidelines.
scotchandcigar
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Yes, the unvaccinated can go F themselves. But in parts of the country, hospitals are filling up again. It's spreading, resources are being exhausted, and it's getting out of control. It's like pointing out how many trillions we'd save in healthcare costs if half the country wasn't obese; it's true, but you can't make everyone healthy. And you also can't make people get the vaccine. Plus, even the vaccinated are susceptible to covid if they come into contact with enough cases.
BTW, you know that your guy is 100% responsible for most of the people who aren't vaxxed, so I find it odd that you keep bringing this up.
JHDK
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Ok, this makes sense. If tons of unvax'ed are filling up the hospitals then they are taking up the space for vax'ed normal people with other health issues. I didn't think of that.
Are you talking about Trump or DeSantis or am I mistaken about what you're saying here?
sadchild
Dude
Yep understood and agreed. That's why I feel the guy has gone a bit kookoo/tin-foil-hat since Covid. I spoke with my doctor about my concerns with my body handling a Covid vax. Then I did a different, more established and known-safe vax and it went well. So I'm still confident I'll be getting mine. I just have another thing to read. And I wouldn't bother if I didn't already know the guy is very smart about health in general. I'm pretty sure I'll get to the end and say, "I'm not buying this" and get vaxxed.
Very true. Everyone else I've talked to who isn't getting the vax is either 1) believing the Wuhan lab story ("it wasn't a bat at a wet market") or 2) care more about 'their rights' in the most insane and wrong way I've ever seen.
I still do this every time. I shared my story of being asked to leave even though I was wearing a mask... I left. Trying to be respectful as I was sorting out my health. I think I also told the story of someone I work with who CAN'T get the vax, at risk of his health? I think I shared that. But he should be the rare exception.
JHDK
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This is smart. And I'm not trying to be mean here, of course it's good to talk to your trusted doc, but come on man, just get the shots. Like almost no one has had serious issues from them. I don't know the stats exactly but I imagine the people who died or had clots or whatever else serious are fewer than those who get a similar seriously bad reaction from the flu shot each year.
This is interesting. At first it was fake news and Facebook/Youtube and the rest were censoring people who talked about it. Then it became accepted on even left leaning sites like CNN and MSNBC and now some report came out a couple days ago that major outlets like those aren't really covering much.
scotchandcigar
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I'll just say yes, maybe and no, and leave it at that.
It would be nice if everything wasn't instantly politicized, but it is. And initially, it was purported that it came from the wet market, which (of course) caused the other side - who automatically opposes everything the one side says - to claim it was from a lab, and that the Chinese knowingly unleashed this on us, possibly with the knowledge of our scientists like Fauci. But at the time, there was little evidence of the lab theory, other than the desire for some to want it to be true. And because of that, it was being opposed by the other side.
JHDK
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I think we can all agree with that. When Covid first started congress passed those relief bills right away. It proves they can work together in the face of an emergency but if you give them like any time to think they start getting petty with each other.
I think it may have been experimented with in labs and leaked out, I doubt it was a purposeful attack. Also it's facts that Fauci and his team are responsible for advocating funding for Chinese lab research...It makes me wonder how many other labs we help fund. I believe Fauci overall wants what's best for human health...that doesn't make him immune to serious mistakes though.
scotchandcigar
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Fact-check: Did Dr. Fauci fund research that created COVID-19?
Conspiracy theories continue to spread about a virology lab in Wuhan, China, which has drawn scrutiny throughout the pandemic. One claim about the lab comes from conservative news site WorldNetDaily,...
www.statesman.com
scotchandcigar
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I agree.
JHDK
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Fact-check: Did Dr. Fauci fund research that created COVID-19?
Conspiracy theories continue to spread about a virology lab in Wuhan, China, which has drawn scrutiny throughout the pandemic. One claim about the lab comes from conservative news site WorldNetDaily,...
I appreciate the link. It contains some good info.
Did you post it just to provide facts or agree with me or disagree with me?
From my reading it seems to back what I was saying:
In 2014, the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, the part of the NIH headed by Fauci, awarded a $3.4 million grant to the New York-based EcoHealth Alliance, which aims to protect people from viruses that jump from species to species.
The group hired the virology lab in Wuhan to conduct genetic analyses of bat coronaviruses collected in Yunnan province, about 800 miles southwest of Wuhan. EcoHealth Alliance paid the lab $598,500 over five years. The lab had secured approval from both the U.S. State Department and the NIH.
scotchandcigar
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It was to clarify that, while some parts of a story may be facts, other parts are not, or are unsubstantiated. That's all. There's usually some part of a story that involves a fact, which is used as the basis to jump to a conclusion.
JHDK
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I'd rather play Twister...that usually winds up with sex.
JHDK
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Now we all know Paul McCartney hasn't looked like Paul McCartney for like 30 years now...he's getting real close to Joan Rivers territory with all the plastic surgery...but wow, is this him? It looks nothing like even the current version of him.
Top 3 all time bands cause I want to add this for some reason:
Phish
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Top 3 all time bands cause I want to add this for some reason:
Phish
Beatles
Dead
Rounding out the top 5 is hard...I cant think of the next 2 I love the most.
Channel98
Don't yell or hit.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves, Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds and Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson are opposed to mask mandates, vaccination mandates and lockdowns. The five have something in common. I am not going to say what. On Tuesday, President Biden singled out the Governors of Texas and Florida when he said, “I believe the results of their decisions are not good for their constituents. It’s clear to me and to most of the medical experts that the decisions being made, like not allowing mask mandates in the schools, are bad health policy. I say to these Governors, please help. If you aren’t going to help, at least get out of the way of the people who are trying to do the right thing. Use your power to save lives."
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Arkansas governor says he regrets law banning mask mandates
Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson said he regretted signing a law banning local mask mandates as COVID-19 cases continue to rise in his state.
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