The Police Thread

Channel98 said:
Allow me to adapt a line from a poem by Ernest Lawrence Thayer: There will be no joy in St. Louis tonight. Ryan Morris disappeared May 10 with the shutdown of XMFan.com. Can someone check on him and make sure he's okay?

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Not exactly sure what's going on with that post 98. Sucks that the retired cop was murdered. Hope the perps get life or the chair. I have no idea what XMFan.com is/was all about. I guess it was a site kinda like DRC (no way as cool though).

Anyway, all this death and poem talk got me thinking about one poem my mom taught me and it has always stuck with me. I think I recited it at some poetry night in middle school. It was first published in 1897.

Richard Cory
BY EDWIN ARLINGTON ROBINSON

Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich—yes, richer than a king—
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.
 
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What I'm wondering, JHDK, is if people riot because a cop kills a black man, can we expect that quite a few cops will riot now that a protester has killed a cop? Or will they show restraint? Tonight we will find out.

In 1965, Paul Simon wrote a song told from the standpoint of a man who works in Richard Cory's factory. Simon & Garfunkel recorded it for their 1966 album Sounds Of Silence. A certain recurring line in the song takes on a whole new meaning by the end. Hurry and listen!

 
Channel98 said:
What I'm wondering, JHDK, is if people riot because a cop kills a black man, can we expect that quite a few cops will riot now that a protester has killed a cop? Or will they show restraint?
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Like 3 weeks ago some younger black guy beat the crap out of an elderly white guy (and filmed it) at some mental facility in Detroit where they were roommates. No riots sprung from that.

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Detroit police investigate second video appearing to show person being beaten inside nursing home

A disturbing video showing an elderly man taking punches inside a Detroit nursing home went viral on social media last week.
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Now I know it's not that simple and there is a history of black oppression in this country but the white guilt thing is bonkers to me. We are not responsible for the sins of our fathers. Just be nice to people in general. That cop was an asshole and he's getting what he deserves. It doesn't mean all cops are bad just like how there are some rioters right now and that doesn't mean that all the protesters are bad.
 
Channel98 said:
In 1965, Paul Simon wrote a song told from the standpoint of a man who works in Richard Cory's factory. Simon & Garfunkel recorded it for their 1966 album Sounds Of Silence. A certain recurring line in the song takes on a whole new meaning by the end. Hurry and listen!
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That's really cool. Never heard that before. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Brings multiple things I hold dear together, 60's hippie music and old poetry artwork.

I think I'm going to listen to that like 20 times to let it sink in.
 
JHDK said:
Now I know it's not that simple and there is a history of black oppression in this country but the white guilt thing is bonkers to me. We are not responsible for the sins of our fathers. Just be nice to people in general.
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I don't like the term white guilt, but blacks today still live with harassment, suspicion, and unfair treatment. White people don't; that's white privilege. It's not your fault, but it needs to be acknowledged.

There's a cousin on my wife's side who's a retired cop, and he hates blacks. He's got reasons, based on his experiences, but he's the kind of guy who'd treat a black suspect differently than a white one. This is not a "sins of our fathers" thing, it's been going on for our whole lives, and it's going on now.
 
Forbes just released its annual ranking of the world's highest-paid celebrities. With 2020 income of $170 million, Kanye West ranks second behind Kylie Jenner. He's now worth $1.3 billion – and it's nice that he's using some of that money to help George Floyd's daughter. I wonder if any police officers ever thought of raising money to help her. Probably not.

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Kanye West donates $2 million, pays college tuition for George Floyd's daughter | CNN

Kanye West has made a $2 million donation to support the families of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbrery, and Breonna Taylor, along with black-owned businesses in crisis in his native Chicago, a representative for West told CNN.
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We didn't have violence last night. The protestors had a nice sit down concert/rally/local speakers type event on the water front.
 
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We didn't have violence last night. The protestors had a nice sit down concert/rally/local speakers type event on the water front.
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Hopefully it stays that way.

If the one cop doesn't get convicted of murder, things are going to get REALLY bad.
 
This is pretty cool.
Artist Simone Leigh has painted a massive tribute to Black Lives Matter on the street leading to the White House in Washington, D.C.
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Speaking of that "emperor," we know he does not respect the First Amendment. He detests freedom of speech (unless the speech is filled with praise for him), freedom of the press (unless the stories are filled with praise for him) and the right to assemble (unless everyone assembled is praising him). Thus.......

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Black Lives Matter sues Trump administration over use of force on D.C. protesters

Black Lives Matter filed suit against President Trump and his administration, alleging their civil rights and First Amendment right were violated.
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I love those 57 guys.

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Buffalo mayor: Elderly man who was shoved by cops was an 'agitator'

Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said he won't call for two police officers who were seen pushing a 75-year-old man to the ground to be fired amid the ongoing investigation.
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Mayor Byron Brown addressed the incident in a press conference on Friday after 57 officers on the Emergency Response Team resigned from their positions in support of their two colleagues who were suspended without pay after video (left) showed them pushing protester Martin Gugino (right and center) and causing him to fall and hit his head. Gugino, a longtime peace activist from Amherst, had been at a protest at Niagara Square near Buffalo City Hall when he approached a line of officers in riot gear after the city's 8pm curfew went into effect. 'What we were informed of is that that individual was an agitator. He was trying to spark up the crowd of people. Those people were there into the darkness. Our concern is when it gets dark, there is a potential for violence,' Brown said.
 

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Just saw this, on yahoo news, the responders were pretty pro cops. I said, If cops in full riot gear can't take care of an older man who can they protect?
 
What if the statement had been 'Black lives matter too' or black lives matter as well' not catchy enough perhaps. The sacramento Kings play by play man, a real doof, said he didn't know what the statement meant said some shiz and got tossed after 30 years of service.
 
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