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JHDK said:
And Trump bucking the trends is why I dig him.
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How is his insane and inappropriate rant "bucking the trend"? That term would be appropriate if he used an unorthodox method to achieve a good result. The only good result I can think of is that his speech is now over, and the scouts no longer have to endure him.

Every President is automatically scheduled to make this address. If the scouts cancelled the invitation, it would seem like they were politicizing the event.

The fact that you thought his speech was admirable says a lot, none of which I can express here.
 
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This late night healthcare debate is fascinating:

Read The Latest Updates On The Senate's Health Care Voting Frenzy | HuffPost

Health care debate: Turmoil in Senate over 'skinny bill' - CNNPolitics.com

Senate Leadership Considers 'Skinny Repeal' of Obamacare - Breitbart
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From the CNN story:

The bill would mean 15 million more people would be uninsured next year than under Obamacare, with 16 million more in 2026, the Congressional Budget Office said in a report released late Thursday night. Premiums would jump 20% next year, compared to current law.
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So Republicans are having a tough time taking health care away from 31 million Americans and charging the rest 20% more? Well ... duh.
 
It was a weird and interesting political show last night. I was glued to the TV like it was a Eagles game. This CBO has way more power than I ever knew. The whole reason they did it so late is cause they were waiting for their report. They seem to be making progress, 16 million is their lowest loss yet. But then they were doing this weird thing where the Senators were saying something to the effect of we will only pass this if the Reps promise not to pass it before we all can sit down and tweak it a bit. Rightfully so, the house said "we ain't promising that", and I think that's where it fell apart for McCain and the other 2. Kinda embarrassing for the GOP Senate. They have been promising repeal for years and now that they finally have all the power they can't seem to get it done.
 
Also, I'm not a fan of all this repeal nonsense. I found myself rooting for it to pass last night because lately I take perverse pleasure in seeing the Dems losing and it would have no effect on my life either way. However I do think it's a bad idea to go around overturning major, history making legislation from one election cycle to the next. Just doesn't seem right to me.
 
JHDK said:
It was a weird and interesting political show last night. I was glued to the TV like it was a Eagles game. This CBO has way more power than I ever knew. The whole reason they did it so late is cause they were waiting for their report. They seem to be making progress, 16 million is their lowest loss yet. But then they were doing this weird thing where the Senators were saying something to the effect of we will only pass this if the Reps promise not to pass it before we all can sit down and tweak it a bit. Rightfully so, the house said "we ain't promising that", and I think that's where it fell apart for McCain and the other 2. Kinda embarrassing for the GOP Senate. They have been promising repeal for years and now that they finally have all the power they can't seem to get it done.
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The 16 million is just next year. The year after another 15 million would lose coverage.

They had 7 years to sit down and write their best law. They can't because the things they want are diametrically opposed. They want to cut spending (and taxes) without decreasing health care coverage or raising costs, but they don't want to stiff the insurance industry or big pharma. Mathematically, you can't do all of those things at the same time.
 
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They had 7 years to sit down and write their best law.
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The bottom line is that it's all just partisan bullshit. Years prior to the ACA, Republican governor Mitt Romney passed a universal healthcare law in Massachusetts. It received bipartisan support, and it does essentially the same thing as the ACA (Obamacare). There's nothing "democrat" or "republican" about healthcare reform. On the surface, it might appear that bleeding-heart liberals want rich people to give free healthcare to poor people, but that's not at all what the ACA is. It's actually a statistically-reasoned way to reduce costs, by making everyone contribute to a pool, and allowing people who'd otherwise have no coverage get preventative care. Because a $150 preventative checkup is less costly than a $15,000 emergency room bill.

The reason the ACA is not working so well is that A) healthy people are not participating in the pool, because it's not structured in a way that properly ensures this, because half the country just wants to dismantle it, and B) it's not financially advantageous to the industries represented by the big lobby groups, so it requires that government support the interests of the people instead of the lobbyists.

Basically, the 8 1/2 year campaign against Obamacare is just blind partisanship; there's never been an alternative in the works. They are trying to repeal it simply because of who it was passed under. There are certainly many ways to improve our healthcare system in the US, but staying up all night watching an exercise in futility is not one of them.
 
Apart from the partisan bs, the main problem with it is that there are too many options. With all of the different plans that people can choose, the money is split into too many separate risk pools. There isn't enough in them individually to be sustainable for the long haul. If there were only one or two pools, it could go on till the end of days, or until we get replaced by robots.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing said:
You can't have free healthcare and low taxes/premiums simultaneously.


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You can't have free anything. You can make healthcare cheaper by reducing profit, though.

You can slash the health insurance industry's profit by going single payer. You can reduce pharmaceutical profit by imposing price controls. Neither party is willing to go against those lobbies, so we're stuck with expensive healthcare.
 
So...illegally entering a country and skipping a court date is what CNN considers to be "no criminal record"?

This is the face of deportation: A dad with no criminal record, an American wife and two kids - CNNPolitics.com

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This video/article is clearly designed to make people feel bad for a guy who simply has to finally face the consequences for breaking the law.
 
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This is some unimportant/dumb yet fun Sunday morning drama. I follow this guy Arthur Schwartz. He's some kind of DC insider and his tweets are often a bit inflammatory and entertaining. I've been following him since a little before the election. This morning he tweets out this:

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I thought nothing of it, this is kinda par for the course when it comes to his tweets. Then he retracts by tweeting this:

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Turns out he is friends with the new comms director and he reached out and told Schwartz to cut it out. I was wondering why he was apologizing when I first saw it but now it all makes sense. Also kinda funny that Scaramucci is telling anyone to slow down after all this shit he's talked about various staffers recently.

Scaramucci friend accuses Priebus of affair, then regrets it

Scaramucci yelled at friend for trashing Reince Priebus | Daily Mail Online
 
While there is no denying our ancestors gave the Indians the shaft, just about every people ever have screwed over another people to set up shop on some landmass. It is the successful peoples who figure out a way to not allow it to happen to them. Or at least how to hold it at bay for as long as possible.
 
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