How does your state work?

[sadchild]

Surprised he didn't mention we're one of three states with no helmet laws too (Illinois and Iowa are the other two).

Bob Marley (not the reggae guy) specializes in comedy mostly about Maine.

Hear him explain these Maine terms:

"Fridee"
"rooked"
"deck"
"two shits"
"shit you not"
"shit the bed"
"shahp"
"dinkweed"

 

[scotchandcigar]

My experience with potheads is that they are almost in a cult. It's not just like they enjoy pot but pot is good for everything and everybody should use it not only for recreation but to cure all medical conditions. Nothing bad ever comes from smoking pot and you can't drive bad while stoned.

It sounds like you hang out with high school kids transported from the 70s. The people who use marijuana are basically all the people around me. Professionals, retired people, generally older friends. It's exactly the same cross-section as those who drink beer or wine; in other words, anyone and everyone.

Having marijuana is part of the day; no one's smoking and driving. And yes, many people use it - or should use it - to alleviate a variety of conditions. Perhaps people sense your opposition to it, and feel the need to pump it up.

 

[kingchuck69]

Here in Michigan, most places sell beer and wine, though some have a full liquor license.

When it comes to state inspections, they aren't necessary. Sadly, the roads suck, no matter how often they're paved over and redone. There aren't many toll roads, save for the Mackinac Bridge.

Cannabis laws vary from city-to-city. In my section of Grand Rapids, there's a pot shop that does well. However, they're redoing a former Cafe to accommodate a Lume store in the coming weeks.

Are there stupid laws? You Bet! In 2006, Grand Rapids banned nude dancing, thinking that it would reduce crime. Sixteen years later, shootings always top the news.

And yes, there's towns with weird names. Try to pronounce Charlevoix, Interlochen, and Hamtramck. Oh, when a certain town in northern Michigan was slammed with an EF-3 tornado, newsreaders were nice enough to pronounce its name as it's spelled out: Gaylord. Nope! Gay-lerd.

 

[Channel98]

Reno has a law that must be awfully frustrating for anyone who might want to sit and watch a parade: "No person shall sit or lie down upon a public sidewalk or upon a blanket, chair, stool or any other object placed upon a public sidewalk in the Downtown Reno Regional Center."

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

It sounds like you hang out with high school kids transported from the 70s. The people who use marijuana are basically all the people around me. Professionals, retired people, generally older friends. It's exactly the same cross-section as those who drink beer or wine; in other words, anyone and everyone.

Having marijuana is part of the day; no one's smoking and driving. And yes, many people use it - or should use it - to alleviate a variety of conditions. Perhaps people sense your opposition to it, and feel the need to pump it up.

I have no problem with people doing whatever they want with it. It is a mostly harmless drug and if they want to go through life stoned more power to them (I retain the right to be judgemental). And I do know that it is helpful as a pain reliever. My wife uses marajana oil to help with pain. But she uses the one for the most part that is not THC (THC as you know is the part which makes you high). I wish I could remember the acronym of the part she uses. I don't recall being the one who started the conversations but I can rarely resist jumping into a discussion and I certainly don't mind being in the minority opinion. You don't need to be in the majority to be right.

 

[Jon]

I have no problem with people doing whatever they want with it. It is a mostly harmless drug and if they want to go through life stoned more power to them (I retain the right to be judgemental). And I do know that it is helpful as a pain reliever. My wife uses marajana oil to help with pain. But she uses the one for the most part that is not THC (THC as you know is the part which makes you high). I wish I could remember the acronym of the part she uses. I don't recall being the one who started the conversations but I can rarely resist jumping into a discussion and I certainly don't mind being in the minority opinion. You don't need to be in the majority to be right.

You’re probably thinking of CBD oil, I use it as well to ward off anxiety. It is quite helpful. The kind I use contains no THC, as too much has been linked to increased anxiety. Naturally, marijuana has been legal here for about 10 years, and I know several people who use it recreationally and do quite well for themselves.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

You’re probably thinking of CBD oil, I use it as well to ward off anxiety. It is quite helpful. The kind I use contains no THC, as too much has been linked to increased anxiety. Naturally, marijuana has been legal here for about 10 years, and I know several people who use it recreationally and do quite well for themselves.

CBD is indeed the acronym I was looking for.

 

[sadchild]

Back in 2001, a Yale student wrote an article in The Libertarian Enterprise about a movement to secede from the US. He followed up with an article changing his idea from secession to political migration (like Amish in PA, Mormons in UT, etc). Their plan was to find a state with a small population and relatively small political party budget (both Dems and Repubs) and have 20,000 people commit to moving there, so their Libertarian agendas would have a high chance of success. In 2003, they chose....

New Hampshire

In 2016, the list of people who pledged to move to NH reached 20,000. People were then expected to follow up on it. Their mission statement is: "Liberty in Your Lifetime! The Free State Project is a mass migration of more than 20,000 people who have pledged to move to New Hampshire for liberty. By concentrating our numbers in a single state, we are maximizing our impact as activists, entrepreneurs, community builders, and thought leaders." They state on their site: "The FSP is not a political action organization. It is not tied to any political party or organization; it does not run candidates for election; it does not financially support or endorse candidates; and it does not oppose or endorse legislation."

They're still going, but I don't think it's as strong as they wanted. It's been six years and their own website reports there are 6,232 Free Staters living here currently. The reason I know about this is my son's first school, which closed in 2012, was started by a married couple who were Free Staters. They're divorced now, and last I knew, are teaching at separate schools.

 

[scotchandcigar]

Back in 2001, a Yale student wrote an article in The Libertarian Enterprise about a movement to secede from the US. He followed up with an article changing his idea from secession to political migration (like Amish in PA, Mormons in UT, etc). Their plan was to find a state with a small population and relatively small political party budget (both Dems and Repubs) and have 20,000 people commit to moving there, so their Libertarian agendas would have a high chance of success. In 2003, they chose....

New Hampshire

In 2016, the list of people who pledged to move to NH reached 20,000. People were then expected to follow up on it. Their mission statement is: "Liberty in Your Lifetime! The Free State Project is a mass migration of more than 20,000 people who have pledged to move to New Hampshire for liberty. By concentrating our numbers in a single state, we are maximizing our impact as activists, entrepreneurs, community builders, and thought leaders." They state on their site: "The FSP is not a political action organization. It is not tied to any political party or organization; it does not run candidates for election; it does not financially support or endorse candidates; and it does not oppose or endorse legislation."

They're still going, but I don't think it's as strong as they wanted. It's been six years and their own website reports there are 6,232 Free Staters living here currently. The reason I know about this is my son's first school, which closed in 2012, was started by a married couple who were Free Staters. They're divorced now, and last I knew, are teaching at separate schools.

They should've picked Wyoming.

 

[scotchandcigar]

if they want to go through life stoned

This is what I have a problem with. Do you see people who drink as going through life drunk? It seems like you ignored everything I said. In my experience, people who use marijuana are just a segment of the population, indistinguishable from those who don't. They are not publicly stoned any more than people are publicly drunk.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

This is what I have a problem with. Do you see people who drink as going through life drunk? It seems like you ignored everything I said. In my experience, people who use marijuana are just a segment of the population, indistinguishable from those who don't. They are not publicly stoned any more than people are publicly drunk.

At virtually every concert I have been to or sporting event, with clear no smoking rules, the stoners are the only ones who can't survive without their hit. I have never seen alcoholics (the drunks who drink all the time) so in need of a drink they need to do it while walking down the street. But yes, it is a generalization which I am sure is not true of all users.

Btw, usually the discussion when it has happened has started with me saying "I don't partake". Then I get the speech. It's not like I am Grampa Simpson babbling on about the evils of mary jane.

 

[scotchandcigar]

Wait, so you're telling me people light-up at concerts? The nerve! That can't be tolerated.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

It is strictly no smoking.

Which reminds me to add a clause for Ontario laws.
All indoor spaces and work spaces and hotel rooms in Ontario are 100% non-smoking. Cigs and alcohol are heavily taxes. You can get tax-free cigs semi-legally if you buy them from the Indians. You can't get menthol cigs but you can get Cuban cigars.

 

[HecticArt]

Legalize it and tax it.

I don't get how people drive while they are smoked up, other than really slowly.

Here in Michigan, most places sell beer and wine, though some have a full liquor license.

When it comes to state inspections, they aren't necessary. Sadly, the roads suck, no matter how often they're paved over and redone. There aren't many toll roads, save for the Mackinac Bridge.

Cannabis laws vary from city-to-city. In my section of Grand Rapids, there's a pot shop that does well. However, they're redoing a former Cafe to accommodate a Lume store in the coming weeks.

Are there stupid laws? You Bet! In 2006, Grand Rapids banned nude dancing, thinking that it would reduce crime. Sixteen years later, shootings always top the news.

And yes, there's towns with weird names. Try to pronounce Charlevoix, Interlochen, and Hamtramck. Oh, when a certain town in northern Michigan was slammed with an EF-3 tornado, newsreaders were nice enough to pronounce its name as it's spelled out: Gaylord. Nope! Gay-lerd.

I know all of those places, and I pronounce them correctly too!
It's funny how when we drive into Michigan from Ohio, how all of the sudden ALL of the billboards suddenly become ads for pot and fireworks. The casino billboards start to blend in a few miles over the line.

At virtually every concert I have been to or sporting event, with clear no smoking rules, the stoners are the only ones who can't survive without their hit. I have never seen alcoholics (the drunks who drink all the time) so in need of a drink they need to do it while walking down the street. But yes, it is a generalization which I am sure is not true of all users.

Btw, usually the discussion when it has happened has started with me saying "I don't partake". Then I get the speech. It's not like I am Grampa Simpson babbling on about the evils of mary jane.

People like to get drunk at concerts too. The big difference is that you can smell the weed from the next section where the beer drinkers blend in more.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

People like to get drunk at concerts too. The big difference is that you can smell the weed from the next section where the beer drinkers blend in more.

That is true. It triggers my why am I smelling a smoker response than why is the person getting stoned but since it's pissing me off I feel I have the right to call them a stoner (not that they know or care but it makes me feel better).

 

[sadchild]

I don't want anyone smoking anything indoors anywhere near me. Tobacco makes me cough hack and gag. Weed can get people high with secondary smoke. Ban it all for indoor public places.

 

[kingchuck69]

I know all of those places, and I pronounce them correctly too!
It's funny how when we drive into Michigan from Ohio, how all of the sudden ALL of the billboards suddenly become ads for pot and fireworks. The casino billboards start to blend in a few miles over the line.

Pot, fireworks and a Deja Vu billboard here and there since Michigan's their home state. Several years ago, fireworks became legal since it's been legal in Indiana for years and they were taking our money. Boy, is my dog unhappy...

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Having given this more thought, I realized that I do know several pot users who do not fall into the religions fanatic category (my daughter for one). But when I think of mj users I think of the fanatic ones. It was unfair of me to group them all into one category.

 

[scotchandcigar]

Having given this more thought, I realized that I do know several pot users who do not fall into the religions fanatic category (my daughter for one). But when I think of mj users I think of the fanatic ones. It was unfair of me to group them all into one category.

Just calm down and take a couple of hits.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Just calm down and take a couple of hits.

I don't partake.