Celebrities Getting Into Trouble

Dominion attorney Justin Nelson said "the truth matters." Not to Fox News it doesn't! They were happy to spread Trump's election fraud lies so his supporters would keep watching the channel. Unfortunately, as part of today's settlement, Fox News hosts will not have to issue any retractions or apologize for spreading lies.

Yesterday in a Truth Social post – in all-capital letters – Trump said "good things will happen" to Fox if they acknowledge that Dominion rigged the election in favor of Biden. In other words, continue spreading the lies. Trump insisted there is "massive proof" the 2020 Presidential election was "rigged and stollen." Yes, he once again misspelled "stolen."

As a public service, I hereby present all the "proof" that the election was rigged and stolen:













Okay, I'm done.
 
You are correct, Mister Hectic. In a story headlined "Fox News lost the lawsuit but won the war," The Atlantic noted that "the company really did not want to put its stars or its executive chairman, Rupert Murdoch, on a witness stand in court. For Fox, the nine-figure payout has turned out to be the cost of doing business and guaranteeing the network’s existence. Today, Fox’s primacy within right-wing media has been restored."

Smartmatic is suing Fox News for $2.7 billion over the same lies that Dominion sued for – false claims that their voting machines switched Trump votes to Biden votes. I'm guessing this case, same as the Dominion case, will not to go to trial.

Fox News still faces $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit from Smartmatic​

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Channel98 said:
For Fox, the nine-figure payout has turned out to be the cost of doing business
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PISSES ME OFF!! Just like big pharma. Make $100 billion with a dangerous psychiatric medication, pay the $1 billion fee for being evil. Big pharma wins. The lawyers win. And the average Joe mourns the loss of their kid, whether it was killing himself or a victim of the neighborhood someone shot up.

Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common, and its not the weapons used. The overwhelming evidence suggests the single largest common factor in all of these incidents is that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes.

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

Alex Kim, age 13, hanged himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS!
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I know the drug companies have put out drugs for heart disease and such, that have been taken off the market. And they tend to put out new pills that do the same thing as the old pills, so they can get around the loss of profits from generics. But I'm not aware of any of the medications you mentioned being taken off the market.

Also, you need to separate anecdotal occurrence vs. cause & effect. Many people take psychotic medications, and most find that it helps them. You can't take the totality of mass shooters (thousands of people) and cherry pick a dozen cases to prove a point. You can make the same argument about coffee or soda. I can list 100 mass shooters who all drink coffee, and conclude that caffeine makes you nuts.

The other part of cause & effect is the chicken/egg thing. Which came first? I'm not surprised that mass shooters, as a whole, have mental issues. And so it's more likely that they may be on psychotic medications than the population at large. But they're taking the drugs to address a problem that already existed.

I recently watched the Brooke Shields documentary. And there's the well-publicized feud between her and Tom Cruise about medications used for post-partum depression. In the opinion of most people, Cruise is a nut, and his crazy scientology beliefs make him think he knows about things that he doesn't.
 
The meds aren't off the market, but their side effects (psychotic episodes, suicidal behavior) are well known. Also, some testing is skewed to make a drug seem safer than it really is so it can be approved. Plus pharm companies pushing for off-label use. There's too much to try and post here (especially in the wrong thread), but this recent NYT article covers it well if you have a few minutes to really dig into it.

www.nytimes.com

This Teen Was Prescribed 10 Psychiatric Drugs. She’s Not Alone. (Published 2022)

Increasingly, anxious and depressed teens are using multiple, powerful psychiatric drugs, many of them untested in adolescents or for use in tandem.
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sadchild said:
The meds aren't off the market, but their side effects (psychotic episodes, suicidal behavior) are well known. Also, some testing is skewed to make a drug seem safer than it really is so it can be approved. Plus pharm companies pushing for off-label use. There's too much to try and post here (especially in the wrong thread), but this recent NYT article covers it well if you have a few minutes to really dig into it.

www.nytimes.com

This Teen Was Prescribed 10 Psychiatric Drugs. She’s Not Alone. (Published 2022)

Increasingly, anxious and depressed teens are using multiple, powerful psychiatric drugs, many of them untested in adolescents or for use in tandem.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Agree there is some truth to all of these statements, but the article highlights the most abusive situations; it's not representative of the majority of cases.

Like I said, I think a common thread among mass shooters is the existence of mental/social problems. So I wouldn't be surprised if most of them are on medication. But among the other 99.9% of the population, a decent percent are also taking similar medication. I'm not aware of a solid cause/effect link.

There seems to be evidence that social media has more of a cause/effect relationship for gun violence and suicides than medications. But if your opinion leans towards drugs being a factor, I'll acknowledge that possibility, and agree to move on. Because I don't have proof one way or another.
 
Yeah I'm not saying "medicated = shooter" and "not medicated = not a shooter". It's just that the many articles I've read over many years indicate that:

1) The "science" behind medicating mental conditions (depression/ADHD) is quite bogus, even acknowledged by many psychiatrists
2) Drug companies manipulate psychiatrists into over-prescribing psychotropics and using them off-label (for profit)
3) Drug companies release drugs and encourage their misuse, then just pay the fines (my response to the Fox thing above, similar: profit > fines afterward)
4) As for the chicken/egg thing, people are medicated because of a mental problem, yes, but too many people get worse from the 'fix'. It ain't even close to a 100% cure, in fact, I don't think they say it's a cure at all - just a way to try and combat it, often ineffectively or with varied results (felt better today, but tomorrow I'm taking out a school).
 
So all the doctors in the world who are in the field of mental health are part of a secret society, who know that what they practice is bogus, and yet are keeping it from the public. Got it.

As an engineer, I have a disdain for the act of of going on the internet to research something totally out of one's field of knowledge, and forming an instant conclusion which happens to align with one's predetermined biases. After 9/11, people with zero engineering knowledge decided that the government was lying to us about the collapse of the World Trade Center towers; because they went online and looked up the melting point of steel, and decided that it was all a big conspiracy.

When I had my heart attack and needed surgery, I'm glad to have been cared for by doctors and nurses who were experts in their professions, and who knew what they were doing. Not once did I ever think of telling them how to do their jobs. Like I said, you are free to get on the Tom Cruise Scientology bus. Just don't expect me to hop on.
 
Scotch I could have done it for cheaper as long as my internet held out and the instructions on google were clear. Think of that next time before you pay all those expensive medical bills. Only one thing, cash up front. Just a precaution of course.
 
Consider the thread hijacked lol
scotchandcigar said:
all the doctors in the world who are in the field of mental health are part of a secret society
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Nope. Too far. We can disagree without putting words in my mouth, right? Fact remains: big pharma is corrupt (like many big businesses) and have been proven to act in their best interests > public's best interests over and over again. Not every move. But trillions of dollars of blood money.
scotchandcigar said:
I have a disdain for the act of of going on the internet to research something totally out of one's field of knowledge, and forming an instant conclusion
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Me too. Jordan Klepper does a great job interviewing those idiots. But I also hate when people say, "Today's experts know it all and have it right." Think of all the people locked in mental institutions like Bedlam back in the day (and even into the 1900s). Those experts were really onto something, if torture and death is considered a cure. How many parents were told "We're the experts, and the best thing to do is send them to an institution." Please tell me you already know the horror stories of those hellholes. Again, not saying every institution was a hellhole, but so many destroyed lives...
scotchandcigar said:
When I had my heart attack and needed surgery, I'm glad to have been cared for by doctors and nurses who were experts in their professions
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Absolutely. And I would do the same. But if a psychiatrist recommended shock therapy (expert!) or lobotomy (expert!), fucking forget it. Shove your degree up your ASS! In fact, I'll do it for you!
 
Interesting...

Dominion got its hands on Carlson’s group chat with fellow Fox primetime stars Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham, and a trove of other messages from around the 2020 presidential election. These communications revealed that Carlson told confidants that he “passionately” hated former President Donald Trump and that Trump’s tenure in the White House was a “disaster.”
 
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