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BTW, this whole auto headlight setting came about due to the advent of mandatory daytime running lights. Before then, you would just turn your headlights on or off. But once they required DRLs, you were never really turning them off. It was one or the other. Hence the auto setting.
 
BTW, this whole auto headlight setting came about due to the advent of mandatory daytime running lights. Before then, you would just turn your headlights on or off. But once they required DRLs, you were never really turning them off. It was one or the other. Hence the auto setting.
There were plenty of cars with daytime running lights and no auto setting in the 80s and 90s. Daytime running lights are just on unless the headlights are activated. The auto setting controls only the headlights being on or off.
 
It seems that you were correct about it defaulting to auto headlights + high beams, which just seems crazy to me, and not something I'd ever expect. Hopefully you can turn it off.

You are 100% correct. Defaulting to having the high beams on auto on off mode, every time your headlights turn on is crazy town. It just makes life slightly more annoying. We could put this in the minor annoyances thread.

I only ever use it, ike I said before, on highway overnight road trips, never for surface street drives because it just attracts attention. If a cop were to be coming the other way he may think "oh that guy left his high beams on and remembered to turn them off now that he saw me" and all of a sudden a cop's paying attention to me which no one needs.

BTW, this whole auto headlight setting came about due to the advent of mandatory daytime running lights. Before then, you would just turn your headlights on or off. But once they required DRLs, you were never really turning them off. It was one or the other. Hence the auto setting.

I don't think daytime running lights are a legal requirement anymore because I don't have them and my car is a 2024 model. I have the middle tier of the 3, 2024 Venues. The top tier does have daytime running lights but it didn't have a sunroof. I never had a car with a sunroof before so it made me irrationally excited to get that. The lowest here also had a sunroof and no daytime running lights but they didn't have any at the dealership or else I probably would have gone with that to save a few bucks.
 
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There were plenty of cars with daytime running lights and no auto setting in the 80s and 90s. Daytime running lights are just on unless the headlights are activated. The auto setting controls only the headlights being on or off.
OK, hoser, this is what AI says. DRLs have been legally mandated in Canada since 1990. That's why you guys had them on your cars. We didn't.

DRLs have become standard on most passenger cars sold in the US since 2011. That's when they put the "auto" headlight setting on cars. Some manufacturers, like those in Europe, have provided them for longer. Thanks for asking.

Daytime running lights are just on unless the headlights are activated.
If I move one click on my headlight knob, it goes from "auto" to "off". When it's "off", I get nothing. The next click to the right is a picture of a headlight; that manually puts the headlight on all the time. And then another click is the parking light setting, such as when you're pulled to the side of the road. My point is that the "auto" setting is the only way I get normal operation of both the headlights and DRLs.
 
I don't think daytime running lights are a legal requirement
In the US, they are not legally required, so this is true. They rolled them out to most vehicles in 2011, so I thought it was mandated, but it's not.

In a related topic, I believe all cars are mandated to have a TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system), and have been for several years.
 
If I move one click on my headlight knob, it goes from "auto" to "off". When it's "off", I get nothing. The next click to the right is a picture of a headlight; that manually puts the headlight on all the time. And then another click is the parking light setting, such as when you're pulled to the side of the road. My point is that the "auto" setting is the only way I get normal operation of both the headlights and DRLs.
In my car, if I have the lights set to OFF, I still get daytime running lights as long as the car is in gear. I can't remember if they are on if you are in park. The Auto controls the headlights on or off (not bright or not).
 
OK, hoser, this is what AI says. DRLs have been legally mandated in Canada since 1990. That's why you guys had them on your cars. We didn't.
In the early 1980s SGI (the government auto insurer in Saskatchewan) was running a heavy advertising promotion "Lights On For Life". Even though it was not yet mandated about 90% of drivers in Saskatchewan were willingly turning on their headlights in the daytime. The movement spread throughout the rest of Canada and this lead to it being mandated to be added to cars in 1990.
 
In the early 1980s SGI (the government auto insurer in Saskatchewan) was running a heavy advertising promotion "Lights On For Life". Even though it was not yet mandated about 90% of drivers in Saskatchewan were willingly turning on their headlights in the daytime. The movement spread throughout the rest of Canada and this lead to it being mandated to be added to cars in 1990.
In a country where the sun doesn't get above the horizon half the year, that seems like a good idea.
 
I don't have them and my car is a 2024 model. I have the middle tier of the 3, 2024 Venues. The top tier does have daytime running lights but it didn't have a sunroof.
According to Google AI, you do have them:

Yes, the 2024 Hyundai Venue is equipped with daytime running lights (DRLs), though availability varies by trim level:
  • All Trims (SE, SEL, and Limited): Come with daytime running lights.
  • Limited Trim: Features standard LED daytime running lights (paired with LED headlights and LED taillights).
  • SE and SEL Trims: Equipped with standard daytime running lights alongside projector halogen headlights.
 
Haha! Now when I ask where they're located, I get this:

On the 2024 Hyundai Venue SEL, the daytime running lights (DRLs) are integrated into the lower main headlight assembly located in the front bumper.
  • Location: The front lighting features a split design. The upper strip houses the position lights and turn signals, while the main projector/halogen headlight cluster mounted lower in the front bumper contains the DRL function.
  • US vs. Canadian Models: Note that depending on the regional market and specific equipment packages, US-spec Hyundai Venue SEL trims may not come equipped with daytime running lights, as DRLs have historically been standard or optional depending on the exact sub-trim and country (such as being standard on Canadian models or higher trims like the Limited/Ultimate).

So they all have them, except they may not. :rolleyes:
 
And my car high-beams come on by themselves too. Not too often though. If there are no other cars in front of me, they will turn on if it detects a stop or yield sign. There are a couple of spots on the highway that are darker where you can’t see oncoming traffic that they will turn on too. It doesn’t happen enough that I’ve thought about turning the feature off though.
 
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