XM playlist size Vs Sirius

styckx

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As since the beginning of XM one thing stayed pretty consistent and well known, their playlists were huge and weren't afraid to use them. Exact numbers aren't known but most XM listeners know it was very big.

Sirius. I used to have it and canceled because it was essentially commercial free FM. Small playlists, annoying over the top DJs w/ no real love for the music they were playing. I've heard rumors and what not that Sirius works with a 500 song playlist per channel. Is this true? While some of these new changes are nice to hear, I'm also afraid the repetition monster will kick back in that made me drop Sirius in the first place. While some channels seem to be using some style of XM deeper cuts (Octane for example), I'm wondering if they are still going to use a rather small playlist and after this initial newness wears off most of us will be in the cancellation boat because we will get sick of the same shit and annoying DJs who have already taken over A-LOT of our channels.

/I'm looking at you Jose and Kayla
 

AZJoe

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I can tell you right now Classic Vinyl & Rewind didnt have a 500 song playlist (over double that in fact). I think the smaller playlist thing was taking a fact on many channels and saying it was like that on all channels- and it wasn't. Even if they did have a 500 song limit, very few FM stations even get that close for size. Yes, in general Sirius had smaller playlists (good or bad to many), but to say Sirius is FM without ads, is not factual. What was nice for customers was that there was a choice deeper XM or not as deep Sirius. Many XM subscribers will not admit that over the past year or so, XM itself tightened up it's playlist a lot, and some Sirius channels actually increased theirs. Now that situation is moot, and I just hope Sirius-XM survives, because it is s till light years better than what I can get on terrestrial radio. :)
 
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styckx

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I can tell you right now Classic Vinyl & Rewind didnt have a 500 song playlist (over double that in fact). I think the smaller playlist thing was taking a fact on many channels and saying it was like that on all channels- and it wasn't. Even if they did have a 500 song limit, very few FM stations even get that close for size. Yes, in general Sirius had smaller playlists (good or bad to many), but to say Sirius is FM without ads, is not factual. What was nice for customers was that there was a choice deeper XM or not as deep Sirius. Many XM subscribers will not admit that over the past year or so, XM itself tightened up it's playlist a lot, and some Sirius channels actually increased theirs. Now that situation is moot, and I just hope Sirius-XM survives, because it is s till light years better than what I can get on terrestrial radio. :)

Thanks for clarifying that since I've been out of the Sirius loop for awhile now. XM within the last year did tighten things up a little and started a hits based format but mixed it in w/ the original deep cut format that they were known for. Here is to hoping Sirius follows that same concept.
 

ClubSteeler

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The DJs are doing what they are told to do. The chatter will die down in time as these changes become accepted as the norm.

I find it informative. for example, we now know that half of Octane and half of XMU DJs are from Squizz and XMU. I just think they are more chatty now to try to reduce the "What the F??!!" reaction as people turn on their radios to unfamiliar channel names.
 

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The Rock (Classic Vinyl and Rewind before they split) had a really deep playlist and it was great. Vinyl and Rewind were pretty good even after splitting.

Sirius' heavy rotation stuff tends to creep up the most in decade channels and metal. I seem to remember Left of Centre had huge problems, too. That's why I'm kind of sad they dumped the XMU crew to move the LoC guys into their digs.
 

ClubSteeler

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The Rock (Classic Vinyl and Rewind before they split) had a really deep playlist and it was great. Vinyl and Rewind were pretty good even after splitting.

Sirius' heavy rotation stuff tends to creep up the most in decade channels and metal. I seem to remember Left of Centre had huge problems, too. That's why I'm kind of sad they dumped the XMU crew to move the LoC guys into their digs.

When I listened the other night, they said they had 2 guys from LOC and 2 guys from XMU. At 9:00pm ET an XM DJ took over for the Sirius DJ...
 

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A few years ago X Country did a Bubbapalooza show while they took a vacation.
2 weeks, 24/7, everything in the library without a repeat. :yesshake:

I wrote PD Jessie Scott and she told me they had somewhere around 5000 songs in the library.

As someone above said:
And not afraid to use them.

That's why X fans are so mad, They turned our channel into a bad FM station.
 

AZJoe

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What does a "wider" playlist mean.


Deeper means if you play say, 10 artists , then you might play 16 on the average, of their hits/or tracks, vs a similar channel that plays the same 10 artists but only plays their 5-6 biggest or most popular hits. Wider means instead of playing just those 10 artists, or even 100 whatever artists, you play more. Say for example, the 70s channel plays the 500 biggest hits, who come from the 100 most popular artist of that decade, going wider would increase the artists played on the 70s channel from 100 to say 125.