Wings, Yellow Lines & No Bump Zones may be a thing of the past?

dpkimmel2001

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Word is that NASCAR is investigating the possibility of replacing the rear wings with the old-style rear spoiler in time for the 2010 season per Ramsey Poston. He went on to say that NASCAR is likely to loosen the reins on drivers next season, saying, "We're going to let the drivers drive." While declining to give specifics prior to the official announcement, it is expected that NASCAR will eliminate the controversial "no bumping zones" at superspeedways, and possibly even the rule prohibiting drivers from racing below a yellow line at the bottom of the banking at both Daytona and Talladega.

The wing doesn't bother me one way or another. I know most people will be thrilled that it may be gone.

I like that the yellow line rule may be eliminated. It's always been to open for interpretation. There's no way to enforce that rule properly. Let em race. If you don't want them racing there, plant grass!

No bumping zones should be common sense among those that can handle it and those that can't. Let the drivers figure it out just like they had been for years.
 

hyson

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I gotta wonder how that works out when you hit a rumble strip slideways @ 190+ mph? I bet that wouldn't be pretty. :scratch:

Not sure... but I can tell you how it feels hitting them going 110 in a Jeep Liberty. :bigahh:
 

DexterMorgan

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The wing? Meh. Whatever they can do to make the car race better im all for. The no bump zones have been a non issue.

But ill be damn glad if they eliminate the yellow line. There has not been, without a shadow of a doubt, a rule that has caused more mayhem, crashed cars, controversy, blown calls, and nonsense race after race after race. It has not in any way been safer to have this rule. It was just a gimmick put in by Nascar to give them the right to influence the race at a given point. Good riddance.
 

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I was indefferent about the wing until I saw it help Edwards and Newman both get airbourne last year. Once the car is turned around it lifts it off the ground.
They need to get rid of it for safety reasons.
 

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I was indefferent about the wing until I saw it help Edwards and Newman both get airbourne last year. Once the car is turned around it lifts it off the ground.
They need to get rid of it for safety reasons.

Cars never flipped over backwards before the wing? Cmon now.
 

Snoozer

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Cars never flipped over backwards before the wing? Cmon now.

yeah they totally did but if you look at the footage from both Dega races last year the wing played a big part in the cars getting airbourne, especially Ryan Newman's crash.
 

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Are they going to give Regan Smith back his win?

Yeah.

I'm glad to hear about all this...even if it's a little too late on some things.

Of course, Nascar has said in the past they would loosen up on the drivers but it always seems to depend on who the driver is. :p
 

dpkimmel2001

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NASCAR is in a 'no win' situation for any decision that they make.

The move from a wing to a regular spoiler isn't going to keep the cars on the ground. Cars became airborne long before the implementation of the wing. Cars have become airborne at those speeds going sideways and backwards for years. That was nothing new when the wing was installed. If you think it was, tell that to Bobby Allison. His '87 wreck is one example.

The elimination of the yellow line rule isn't going to change anything other than making the track wider. Other than that, it can finally stop the controversy associated with making that pass.

The elimination of the no bump zone is a great idea IMO. How can that be policed? It was another subjective rule like the yellow line. The drivers will take care of that themselves.

As far as any of these rules causing the single file racing that we saw last year, personally I think that was BS. The drivers choose to race they way they did. IMO it occurs more because there's no incentive to risk the move to the front when there's nothing to gain. Sure, you can get you five points but you also have a lot to lose on the way there. It only makes sense to wait until the end and hope that those around you don't make stupid moves. It's the new way to race Talladega. Hopefully the new changes that get made to the car, if they do, make for better racing there.
 

DexterMorgan

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"NASCAR is in a 'no win' situation for any decision that they make."

Thats not true. They are f'ing morons. They have the ability to make good choices, they just dont.

"The elimination of the yellow line rule isn't going to change anything other than making the track wider. Other than that, it can finally stop the controversy associated with making that pass."

Your going to have have less crashes thats for sure. There were 2 this year that would have been avoided without this moronic rule.
 

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I agree with the less crashes. Ask Elliott Sadler who took quite a ride at Talladega back in '04. Jr wasn't going to move below the yellow line & Sadler got himself wrecked.

How many time had a driver forced another driver below the yellow line & nascar didn't do anything to them? Jr forced Stewart below the line at Daytona but it was Stewart the was penelized :shock:

I'm glad their getting rid of the yellow line rule. nascar never did a good job at policing it anyways :worried:
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As far as any of these rules causing the single file racing that we saw last year, personally I think that was BS.

I would agree because it's 'dega and plate racing. If 'dega was say, 100 laps only, then it MIGHT be exciting enough for me to watch it. :p
 

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They're keeping the yellow line rule :worried:

Now if they only penalize the driver that forces others below the yellow line :shock:
 

dpkimmel2001

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They're keeping the yellow line rule :worried:

Now if they only penalize the driver that forces others below the yellow line :shock:

Well, two outta three aint bad!

I could really care less about the wing -vs- spoiler issue.

Bump drafting in the turns, no brainer. That one is certainly for the drivers to decide.

The yellow line rule was the one that I had hoped would be eliminated. It was the most controversial of them all. Maybe next year. :scratch: