Why does this keep happening, It makes me mad every dang time

[Dave_Perry]

NASCAR has issued penalties, suspensions and fines to the #83 team in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, as a result of rules infractions found on Tuesday during a Martinsville post-race inspection at the NASCAR Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C. The car was found to be in violation of Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4-Q (car, car parts, components and/or equipment used do not conform to NASCAR rules); and 20-2.1-D (exterior sheet metal body parts did not meet the specified minimum thickness) of the 2008 NASCAR rule book. As a result, both the crew chief, Kevin Hamlin, and the car chief, Craig Smokstad, have been suspended indefinitely from NASCAR. Additionally, Hamlin has been fined $100,000. river Brian Vickers and owner Dietrich Mateschitz have been penalized with the loss of 150 driver and 150 owner points, respectively.(NASCAR PR)

That is from Jayski.com and now i ask. What the hell does the driver have to do with the car AT ALL. The driver these days barely makes it to the shop during the week, he shows up just a bit before practice, qualifying and the race as he is very seldom in the garage just hanging out. Yet NASCAR seems to think that they have to take away points from an innocent bystander. This is not 1960 or 70 when these teams only had 2 or 3 members. NASCAR or anyone else out there who knows, answer the question. The problem is you cant cause you have been doing it all alone and to step away from it now would be saying you were wrong in the past.

WELL YOU WERE!!!​

 

[riskybzns]

its the points they are after and therefore that involves the driver. when it all comes down to it, the bottom line is those championship points.

 

[Dave_Perry]

I do understand why they do it, i am saying i dont think it is a correct way to handle it. If a football team wins the super bowl, then the team is tested, one player has illegal steroids do we take away the win, or just suspend that player. In the past history, its only the player who gets suspended. Championship or not, top 5 driver or 30th place driver, the driver and his points should never be touched unless the driver is the actual cause of such an event. Yes, i know there are flaws in every sport and as everyone in the world says now "It is what it is" i guess it will never change.

Let us not forget that Mr Chad Kanus has a history for cheating yet he has won the past two championships. Has he found away around what he was caught at in the past or has he found something new that is still baffling the minds of the NASCAR officials? Yet i will say that team has not skipped a beat in 3 years but if his car was taken next week, stripped down and some exotic item was found on it that was considered illegal to the 100th power, would they take away what he has accomplished in the past? doubt it, just a big stain on his record like Pete Rose. Plus we all know that Hendrick has NASCAR in his back pocket so its unlikely that they will get caught, lol

 

[riskybzns]

Plus we all know that Hendrick has NASCAR in his back pocket so its unlikely that they will get caught, lol

I couldn't have said it any better myself. lol

 

[CountessBathory]

I think you are on to something, per se one player tests positive for doping or cheating, should it negate a win or a championship? What about the players who get busted for assault, dwi's or legal matters? Should that be counted against the team for the quest for glory...look at what is happening with Joba Chamberlain from the Yanks (damn ones), he got busted for a DWI should that be a strike if this was the regular season or the A-Rod debacle with Madonna (personal but still alledged adultry), we have personal views of the penalty but should there be a team relegated one? PacMan Jones is in rehab, should that mar his teams wins? I think no on that case but he is now useless to his team and they suffer without him. We all think of Hendrick in Nascar because of Chad Knaus and even Steve Letarte, but other teams have broken rules but they are not so on the radar its minimized. Trust me in Hockey they had to make a new rule because of antics from Sean Avery against Martin Brodeur last year (that did not affect the points or a championship...wait its the Rangers they are pathetic to begin with):jj:

In stick and ball sports its not a player issue per se unless its so grave, but in Nascar its a "team" sport and if one falters on the team the rest suffer. I think if you are irresponsible enough and careless (to your self and those around you) it is just cause. You are the weakest link that caused the rest to fall, You are the the one knowingly bending the black and white to a nice shade of grey. You are the one making the decision to put your team at risk. Chadster will get caught big time and it will ruin him and make him untrustable and laughed out of the sport give it time and then as Barry Bond's record now has an asterisk next to it so will Jimmie's 2 maybe 3 championships!