The Pre(((SXM-2.0))) Thread

HecticArt

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If I bought a 2.0 radio, I would want to be able to stream everything for my car, home or portability. Music, audios, entertainment clips, sports clips, news, weather forecasts. But I would expect more choices than are currently available. Not necessarily new channels just more from the channels currently offered. I would also want the DJ or no DJ option for music.

I'm thinking that if it is on-demand, it's more like on-demand-ish if you're in your car. I can picture them synching like PDA's used to. When you're near your wifi hot-spot, you can tell it to update your channels, but when you're in your car or away from the wi-fi, you can't customize anything, just listen to what you've created.

Obviously, when you're on your computer, smart-phone, iPad, whatever, you get the whole show.

Somebody around here used to look up what patents and FCC approvals Sirius had filed for. We should prolly keep our eyes open to see if they are registering anything.

I'm ready for new toys!
 

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I would argue that the majority of XM's subscribers were there because of the niche channels that you couldn't get anywhere else. For me personally, it was Cross Country, Luna, Music Lab, XM Chill, Soul Street and Deep Tracks. All of which either went away or were severely neutered after the takeover.

The relative lack of cancellations after those changes IMHO disproves your assertion.
 

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I like to see more channels like bring back some of the old channels! But unfortunately they will raise prices!!!
 

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The relative lack of cancellations after those changes IMHO disproves your assertion.

My assertion is backed up by the declining subscriber numbers before the Sirius takeover became official. They went down before they went up. And they aren't going up in great numbers.
 

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My assertion is backed up by the declining subscriber numbers before the Sirius takeover became official. They went down before they went up. And they aren't going up in great numbers.

Seem to be a steady growth lately.

Before the merger, Sirius subs were growing faster. By that logic, it was clearly where the growth was and XM's philosophy of deep playlists and obscure channels was clearly a failed concept.

Realistically, I think the slowing auto sales really hit SXM hard. Once that hurdle was overcome, they have recovered.
 

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I think the recession hurt them in general. People weren't buying "luxury " services or they were cutting back on them. The auto industry hurt them too. I'm sure they hurt themselves too with the uncertainty of the merger. But hey, at this point in the recovery, any growth is a positive sign.
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I can't wait for SXM 2.0. Hopefully they deliver on the goods and stay in the game for years to come. They definetly need this to stay technologically relevant and would be great in addition to their renewed focus on Sirius online and it's mobile apps. I listen to Sirius Live via internet streaming only, whether its my phone, a 3rd party app on my squeezebox, or my stiletto 2. Only thing I use satellite mode for is record the stern show.
 

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I expect an expansion of single artist channels available by demand. Additionally I'd like to see a live concert channel with either classics from the past or ongoing ones every evening from various sites. The new receivers will have to access every current channel and the proposed new ones. A ultimate type subscription level will feature a sliding scales of monthly fees depending on what level a person's current sub is or a higher rate for new subs.
 

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whatever I get out of my 2.0 radio, I'll want my SXM classic to not change at all.

My hunch is that the basics will pretty much stay the same. I'm guessing that they'll have some sort of Legacy Plan that keeps all of the life-timers and existing subscribers at the same place they are now with basically the same line-up, and then there will be all of the fun extras for 20. that they will charge more for if you're willing to pay up. Just a guess though.
 

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I would argue that the majority of XM's subscribers were there because of the niche channels that you couldn't get anywhere else. For me personally, it was Cross Country, Luna, Music Lab, XM Chill, Soul Street and Deep Tracks. All of which either went away or were severely neutered after the takeover.

I think that might be part of it.

I think a greater part of it was (note: 'was'):
- lack of idiotic DJ chatter (I'm looking at you Morning Mashup)
- sound quality (Remember when digital meant something?)
- variety (to your point) / depth of playlists
- variety of channels - I think this one is one that everyone thinks they want (like 500 channels on Cable) but, in reality, they only listen to a very few select channels. They just like the idea (and it sells) of hundreds of channels.
 

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I think that might be part of it.

I think a greater part of it was (note: 'was'):
- lack of idiotic DJ chatter (I'm looking at you Morning Mashup)
- sound quality (Remember when digital meant something?)
- variety (to your point) / depth of playlists
- variety of channels - I think this one is one that everyone thinks they want (like 500 channels on Cable) but, in reality, they only listen to a very few select channels. They just like the idea (and it sells) of hundreds of channels.

In the case of depth of Playlists, what I've heard of the Spectrum since canceling still does a reasonable job at it. X-Country introduced to me one of my now-favorite Cross Canadian Ragweed (now broken up I'm sorry to say). Also Beyond Jazz, Soul Street and Luna were always on. I had one Radio (a roady XT which was pretty nice) which traveled between the house and car.

Now I'll be renewing my Slacker yearly subscription in the not too distant future, and picking up MLB At Bat '11 to get Home AND Away broadcasts. It more than makes up for the absence of satellite radio, and I have plenty of commercial free music with no DJ chatter on my iPod to go along with that. Should SiriusFM decide to do a better job to bring back the old XM subscribers without alienating the ones who apparently like to pay for FM Radio, then we'll see about it. And even that's an issue considering the price increases that have happened since and will be in the future.
 

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In the case of depth of Playlists, what I've heard of the Spectrum since canceling still does a reasonable job at it. X-Country introduced to me one of my now-favorite Cross Canadian Ragweed (now broken up I'm sorry to say). Also Beyond Jazz, Soul Street and Luna were always on. I had one Radio (a roady XT which was pretty nice) which traveled between the house and car.

Now I'll be renewing my Slacker yearly subscription in the not too distant future, and picking up MLB At Bat '11 to get Home AND Away broadcasts. It more than makes up for the absence of satellite radio, and I have plenty of commercial free music with no DJ chatter on my iPod to go along with that. Should SiriusFM decide to do a better job to bring back the old XM subscribers without alienating the ones who apparently like to pay for FM Radio, then we'll see about it. And even that's an issue considering the price increases that have happened since and will be in the future.

No office, but its pretty clear you will never come or be coming back to SXM.
 

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I still like the plain ol' vanilla satellite radio. I like getting reception in the middle of nowhere and never hearing static. The magic hasn't worn off yet. :p
 

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SiriusXM 2.0? Orbitcast?

It seems some time ago that I read something about SiriusXM2.0, which was their way of saying they were going to be coming out with the next generation of receivers. Has any more been said of this or has a time frame been given as to when more will be said?

Also..I was just on Orbitcast and noticed Ryan hasn't posted since November..has anyone talked to him? Is he well?

Thanks for any replies!
-Tyler
 
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Jon

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From what I do know of Orbitcast, he was going through a pretty messy divorce.
 

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It seems some time ago that I read something about SiriusXM2.0, which was their way of saying they were going to be coming out with the next generation of receivers. Has any more been said of this or has a time frame been given as to when more will be said?

Also..I was just on Orbitcast and noticed Ryan hasn't posted since November..has anyone talked to him? Is he well?

Thanks for any replies!
-Tyler

SISO! Where ya been?!