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Figure they already got railroaded by one sports league. Why make it two?


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When did you start caring about the MLS or its expansion?

St Louis can't lose what it never had.

They lost three teams already, btw. Hawks. Cardinals and Rams (NFL)
 
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semipenguin said:
When did you start caring about the MLS or its expansion?

St Louis can't lose what it never had.

They lost three teams already, btw. Hawks. Cardinals and Rams (NFL)
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Unfortunately St. Louis is in the same category like San Diego and Oakland, they keep losing there teams.

Even the Warriors will be moving across the bay to San Francisco in couple of years.
 
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This Tuesday the city of Tampa/St. Petersburg will vote if they can support a MLS team.

MLS expansion latest: Tampa, Beckham, Miami, St. Louis, San Diego | SI.com

Once again, the future of an MLS expansion effort is in voters’ hands. Three weeks ago, the citizens of St. Louis decided against providing funding for a soccer stadium. Next Tuesday, the St. Petersburg half of the Tampa Bay metro area will decide whether the Rowdies’ bid will move forward.
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More great news coming out of the Phoenix Rising FC camp, the team organizatin has been approved and funded to build a MLS stadium. Now MLS just needs to approve and the team can officially move up and start building.

Phoenix Rising Football Club retains Goldman Sachs as Structuring Agent for MLS Soccer Stadium

The team only 2-2 this season, but seems like they have the fanbase selling out each game with nearly averaging 6,500 fans and signing world class players, even though they are up there in age and recently have a youth soccer league.
 
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I been following the 12 cities expansion bids off and on and here is the latest info for the final 4 spots, which MLS will announce 2 in 2017 and 2 more in 2018.

Charlotte - worst bid due to owners are asking the city to build the stadium, even the owners are close to billionaires
Cincinnati - major front runner, sold out attendance and private funding
Detroit - everything looking great for this team, stadium approval and everything else
Indianapolis - needs public funding and things to be falling apart
Nashville - needs public funding, voters approval but things are looking good
Phoenix - as I mention in post, everything going great just needs MLS approval
Raleigh/Durham - better bids of the Carolina franchise, but trying to stay in the news
Sacramento - was originally a front runner, submitting a bid without the Republic brand under a 3rd party
San Antonio - needs public funding
San Diego - no public funding, but city will vote on a new stadium on Nov 7th
St. Louis - city and voters doesn't approve public funding stadium
Tampa/St. Petersburg - voters approve stadium

So with 12 cities biding for the final 4 spots, sounds like 2 cities are out of the running?

Good - Cincinnati, Detroit, Nashville, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, Tampa/St. Petersburg

Trouble - Charlotte, Indianapolis, Raleigh/Durham

Out - Sacramento, St, Louis
 
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FC Cincinnati release renderings of proposed soccer-specific stadium | MLSsoccer.com

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With the 12 cities bidding for MLS expansion, possibly 13 if Miami screws up somehow?

MLS Expansion Update: Miami, San Diego, Cincinnati, Phoenix, St. Louis, Nashville

Back in May, I posted what cities were good, trouble and possibly out.

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So with 12 cities biding for the final 4 spots

Good - Cincinnati, Detroit, Nashville, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, Tampa/St. Petersburg

Trouble - Charlotte, Indianapolis, Raleigh/Durham

Out - Sacramento, St, Louis
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Here a new look and update:

Great - Cincinnati, Phoenix

Good - Detroit, Miami, Nashville, Sacramento, San Antonio, San Diego, Tampa/St. Petersburg

Trouble - Charlotte, Indianapolis, Raleigh/Durham, St. Louis

If the MLS approved expansion today - I believe Cincinnati and Phoenix would be award, since they got all there acts together, by stadium financing and locations. Miami like they are in detention, they could be awarded, but they missed so many damn deadlines.

Detroit, Nashville, San Antonio, Tampa/St. Petersburg - A little bit of mix, either stadium approval or needs financing help

San Diego - Voted down for an special election, possibly out of the running for 2017 team.
Sacramento - Somehow they found themselves being out and could be a contender again.

Charlotte, Indianapolis, Raleigh/Durham, St. Louis - Are possibly financially in trouble and out?
 
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MLS plans to announce two expansion teams 'around Dec. 19-20'

They said there is 4 slots, but technically there really 5 slots and Miami hasn't been awarded there franchise yet.

The 13 candidate cities are Charlotte, Cincinnati, Detroit, Indianapolis, Nashville, Phoenix, Raleigh/Durham, Sacramento, St. Louis, San Antonio, San Diego, Tampa/St. Petersburg and Miami.

The cities that are a major player in the running for the first wave of expansion slots are Cincinnati, Detroit, Miami, Nashville, Phoenix, Sacramento and Tampa. I read San Diego will probably wait another year, because of financing issues and one of the Carolina cities comes and goes.

I believe Phoenix could jump in the lead if they ever release updated stadium designs and renderings of the future possible stadium. Maybe a little push, was them acquiring a 2nd team for a farming system.

Unlike how Cincinnati and Nashville has been doing it for the past few weeks.

FC Cincy looks for new home as MLS expansion decision nears

10-acre private development in MLS stadium plan a 'non-starter,' councilman says
 
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Insider: Potential Crew move's impact on expansion

Austin wants to dance with our MLS date

With MLS fan base growing bigger and bigger every year. MLS Columbus Crew wants a new stadium near downtown and Columbus might not support it. So why Austin to me, this doesn't make sense? There are 13 cities eyeing for an spot and Austin isn't on the list. It would make more sense, if the Crew moved to one of these 13 cities that already has the financial backing to build an MLS stadium. After reading the articles Austin would had to vote, approve and find the financing to build a stadium. Plus if they moved to Austin, it would screw the chances for San Antonio for an MLS club.

Will Austin Really Get a Major League Soccer Team?

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/...the-biggest-reason-austin-isnt-ready-for.html
 
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With about a month away from MLS announcing there 2 new expansion teams. I partially agree with the ranking system.

Only reason why Nashville is ranked #1, they approve there stadium, but there soccer team isn't playing yet until 2018.

I can see Sacramento and Cincinnati being awarded, because they have the fans base build up and stadiums approved.

I agree Phoenix is the dark horse, the franchise is about 4 years old now. This is the the first year, the fan base finally showed up and the team has showed improvement. Plus everything is already approved. MLS just need to say, Phoenix is awarded the spot and they can start construction on the stadium.

MLS expansion rankings: Who are the favorites?

1. Nashville – Stadium deal in place close to downtown and a growing sports market. Huge crowds for international games and friendlies.

2. Sacramento – Stadium deal in place, Sacramento Republic have had success and big crowds in USL

3. Cincinnati – Huge crowds for USL games but stadium plan a stumbling block. Nippert a great ready-made venue. Biggest losers from Nashville’s rise

4. Phoenix – Financial backing is there, Drogba’s on board and stadium plans are in place. Phoenix the real dark horse?

5. Detroit – Bid hurt by the deal for a stadium downtown collapsing. Will Ford Field as an alternate home put MLS off?

6. San Antonio – Columbus potentially moving to Austin impacts this bid but Toyota Field is ready and big crowds for international games key

7. Tampa Bay/St. Petersburg – Expensive redevelopment of Al Lang Stadium key to this bid but Rowdies have a strong, loyal fanbase

8. Raleigh/Durham – NASL’s problems mean the area could be without a team soon. Will the crowds be big enough to woo MLS?

9. San Diego – Lots of big names on board but the Soccer City development at Qualcomm has stalled. A big ask now

10. St. Louis – See above. Such a shame too given STL’s soccer heritage. If they can get a stadium deal one day, you feel like MLS beckons

11. Charlotte – No public financing or funding for a stadium deal has seen this bid stall. Competing with Raleigh/Durham was ill advised

12. Indianapolis – NASL’s Indy Eleven have a loyal following but lack of funds to support an MLS expansion franchise mean this bid is a pipe dream
 
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Finally, Phoenix Rising FC has decided on the architecture firm to design there future MLS stadium.

 
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