Ipod vs Zune

TOM C.

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T"he only reason that I can see they don't want to support it is so they can lock you into their iTunes service."

Right, You are lock up by apple if you use iTunes
 

DAB

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Yep, but there's no reason not to support WMA and virtually all 3rd party players support it. I think it is a free license. The only reason that I can see they don't want to support it is so they can lock you into their iTunes service.

Yes, notice how other makers are more open than Apple? While Apple does make good products, they do seem to have the "lock you in" disease.

To me there are plenty reasons not to support WMA and YES MS does charge all these players royalty fees for using that codec. Don't you ever be fooled into thinking they give it away for free. They may have started out that way initially to get it off the ground. Anyway... its your music, you have to do what makes you happy.

In regards to Apple, they have always sort of gone their own way, mostly they have done this to keep quality control levels high and they have successfully achieved that where you have many others that have not. I don't think most mind being locked into iTunes because it is a ever growing and very user friendly environment. The standards have never been ditched because Apple comes out with something better. The only exception being the charging system on their iPod which went from Firewire to USB. But then they warned users for 2 years prior to making that change. Microsoft sold Play for Sure up to the day they released the Zune, then when folks went out and bought them found out they were no longer able to use their Play For Sure all you could eat services that they purchased. MS is about as anti-customer friendly as you can be.
 

DAB

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T"he only reason that I can see they don't want to support it is so they can lock you into their iTunes service."

Right, You are lock up by apple if you use iTunes

How am I locked into iTunes, I buy from Amazon and Rhapsody all the time and in fact The Rhapsody software actually sees my iPod and the Amazon download softare actually automaticall copies the music directly to iTunes for me to copy to the device. Doesn't get any easier than this.

I can even drag and drop WMA's and they will be automatically converted to AAC or MP3's whichever I prefer.

iTunes just makes using the iPod very, very easy and works seemlessly with the device. It is one of the reasons the iPod has been so successful and with what over 70 percent of the market. Apparently folks don't care about being locked in if that is what you want to call it.
 
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Manco

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I can even drag and drop WMA's and they will be automatically converted to ACC or MP3's whichever I prefer.

The only neater feature that I can imagine than this is if it played it without converting the file. Conversion between formats can degrade the quality.
 

DAB

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The only neater feature that I can imagine than this is if it played it without converting the file. Conversion between formats can degrade the quality.

It can if done with a poor codec, but does not with the AAC codec. In fact I could pretty much guarantee that you couldn't tell the difference.
 

KTMCDO

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my first mp3 player was the ipod mini 6gb
good player battery cant keep a full charge now
then i got the creative zen micro and micro pro
not much storage on these good for what it is thou
sirius s100 still ticking offers good SQ software that
came with this player suck IMO
out of these i will give it to the ipod
but soon i will have to say zune
since it will be new and battery will
keep a charge
 

KTMCDO

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How am I locked into iTunes, I buy from Amazon and Rhapsody all the time and in fact The Rhapsody software actually sees my iPod and the Amazon download softare actually automaticall copies the music directly to iTunes for me to copy to the device. Doesn't get any easier than this
so far i am really impressed by the amazon mp3 music service
and the price is quite reasonable imo
and yes it does download automatically into
itunes
 

DAB

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It will download to both, you can select either iTunes or Windows Media Player. Price wise Amazon is generally always cheaper than Apple and Apple still has a lot of AAC DRM protected music that they offer. They want to keep folks locked into iTunes as long as they can.