Baseball's Greatest Team of All Time

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For what it's worth, I would take issue with many of these teams that didn't win the World Series. Agree or disagree?
 
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Aaron said:
For what it's worth, I would take issue with many of these teams that didn't win the World Series. Agree or disagree?
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Yeah that's a tough one. Take the 2001 Mariners, for example. They won 116 games in the regular season, and had they won the World Series, we might be talking about them as one of the best ever. But they couldn't even get there.

In the MLB Playoffs, more often than not it's the hottest team that advances, not necessarily the best. So I don't have a huge problem with including teams like the '01 Mariners on this list.

But in general, picking the "best" baseball team ever is a little ridiculous. How do you compare the 1927 Yankees to the 2004 Red Sox? And unless you were actually around in the early 20th century and followed baseball, I'm not sure your opinion on this is actually valid.

Anyway...interesting they included the '86 Astros and not the '05 Astros that went to the World Series. Personally, I think the '98 team was better than both.
 
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Avuncular_Jew II said:
Anyway...interesting they included the '86 Astros and not the '05 Astros that went to the World Series. Personally, I think the '98 team was better than both.
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I watched both clubs, in my opinion the '86 team was better, but I have a hard time ranking them as part of the 32 best all time.
 
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Ifandorbut said:
I watched both clubs, in my opinion the '86 team was better, but I have a hard time ranking them as part of the 32 best all time.
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Yeah I can't really argue with you because I was just 2 years old in 1986, so obviously I didn't get to see that team play.

But the '98 club was the best I've ever seen. Much better than the 2005 World Series team. But they just couldn't get it done in the Playoffs. Damn that Kevin Brown.

I'd even say the '04 Astros that made it to the NLCS was better than '05. Carlos Beltran was a monster that year.
 
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Yeah I can't really argue with you because I was just 2 years old in 1986, so obviously I didn't get to see that team play.

But the '98 club was the best I've ever seen. Much better than the 2005 World Series team. But they just couldn't get it done in the Playoffs. Damn that Kevin Brown.

I'd even say the '04 Astros that made it to the NLCS was better than '05. Carlos Beltran was a monster that year.
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The '86 Giants were basically a rookie team of AA players, great players, but AA players at first and second with tired arms for starters and in the pen. They went toe to toe with Houston most of that year and they actually took over first place after winning a double header against Houston(I was there)right before the All Star break.

They had the incredible playoff series against the Mets, probably the best NLCS ever, but the rookie Giants stayed with them for most of the year, so I can't consider them to be among the greatest....just can't. They were damn good, but I couldn't put them on any list other than topping the best NLCS playoffs.
 
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I would have to put it between the mid 70s "big red machine" teams or the Yankee teams of the late 70s.

It would have been interesting to see what the 1995 Indians would have done in a full season. Was a packed team (Ramirez, Thome, Belle, Lofton, Eddie Murray, Alomar) both offensively and defensively. Had 100 wins in a 144 game strike-shortened season, losing to the Braves in the series.
 
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For loyalty's sake, I've gotta go with the 1977 Royals (won 102 games but lost to the Yankees in the ALCS)...sucks that they were stuck in a bracket with the '27 Yankess, though....would've been interesting to see how either the 1980 or 1985 teams would do.
 
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I wouldn't make it a rule that only World Series winners be included necessarily. That Mariners team won enough games to be worthy of mention.

I personally wouldn't see the '08 Rays and '07 Rockies as among the best 32 teams of all time. Good teams, good stories, but not top 32 of all-time.

Surprised that none of the '70s A's teams were included. Didn't they win 3 in a row?
 
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I wouldn't make it a rule that only World Series winners be included necessarily. That Mariners team won enough games to be worthy of mention.

I personally wouldn't see the '08 Rays and '07 Rockies as among the best 32 teams of all time. Good teams, good stories, but not top 32 of all-time.

Surprised that none of the '70s A's teams were included. Didn't they win 3 in a row?
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No kidding...if any of the New York teams had done the same we never would have heard the end of it. The A's teams of the late 80's are totally worthy of mention as well...the list sucks big time.
 
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Ifandorbut said:
No kidding...if any of the New York teams had done the same we never would have heard the end of it. The A's teams of the late 80's are totally worthy of mention as well...the list sucks big time.
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If they were only doing 32, I think it would have been fair to elinate any team, regardless how good, that did not win a World Series. Since they didn't, they certainly can be critisized for their ommissions.
 
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Guys,

The reason some teams are included that are not as good as some others is that each team had to be represented. So the '07 Rockies were picked as the Greatest Rockies team. The 1929 Philadelphia A's were the greatest A's team, so the 1988 team or the 70s team didn't make it. There is one AL and one NL wildcard to fill out the 32 teams for the bracket. That's why you see some lesser teams and no Yankees teams from the 30s or 60s, A's from the 70s etc.

Hope that clears up any confusion.
 
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btzimmerman1 said:
Guys,

The reason some teams are included that are not as good as some others is that each team had to be represented. So the '07 Rockies were picked as the Greatest Rockies team. The 1929 Philadelphia A's were the greatest A's team, so the 1988 team or the 70s team didn't make it. There is one AL and one NL wildcard to fill out the 32 teams for the bracket. That's why you see some lesser teams and no Yankees teams from the 30s or 60s, A's from the 70s etc.

Hope that clears up any confusion.
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That was a stupid way of doing it. It should be the 32 best teams (World Series winners) period.
 
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