Air France Flight Missing

jef

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Scary story...very sad and tragic.

Air France plane missing over Atlantic after storm | U.S. | Reuters

They are kicking everything around from electrical/weather/mechanical problems to terrorism.

There is a lot of ocean out there, and it's very possible that they never find this airplane.


Yeah - bad enough when the plane crashes on the ground - but at least you have something to go on to try to figure out what happened. If it ends up at the bottom of the Atlantic, there is always a big question mark. I can see this being even harder on the families and loved ones than if there was wreckage somewhere - at least then, there is some sort of closure.
 
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Planes that disappear???

How does the BLACK BOX not FLOAT????What is Norad sleeping again?
Didnt the auto pilot work?
Come on ,no radio contact?
In this day and age lost?What happened to the dam sattelites!???They sleeping too?They dont have one of those GPS locators?
 

semipenguin

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Very sad & tragic. God bless & comfort the family & friends of all aboard...:worried:

I can't begin to count how many overseas flights I've taken. I guess it's the chance you take. I'm glad I don't have to fly anymore.
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TheScionicMan

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How does the BLACK BOX not FLOAT????What is Norad sleeping again?
Didnt the auto pilot work?
Come on ,no radio contact?
In this day and age lost?What happened to the dam sattelites!???They sleeping too?They dont have one of those GPS locators?

Maybe the rest of the plane is still wrapped around the black box. It's not an escape pod.

The plane never got anywhere near North American Airspace, what's NORAD got to do with it? Besides, the radar doesn't detect the plane, it detects the transponder signal sent out by the plane, which requires power.

Auto-pilot won't fix problems. It's like cruise control when you're flying steady. It should never be on in times of trouble

Yes, no radio contact. Hours from land. Possibly indicative of a power failure. Also lightning storms can cause interference.

You have to have a powered beacon to locate. Also indicative of power failure or having sank in deep water. The GPS sats don't track you, a GPS device reads the signals from several sats and uses trilateration to pinpoint your location.
 

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ABC News gives it a 50% chance it was an explosion... Why? It was a newer plane so it should have been able to avoid/handled lightning/turbulance/bad weather.
 

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I see a headline that they think they've found the plane.
Brazilian Air Force found some oil, debris and a seat.
Obviously there will be no survivors, but at least there may be some closure and some answers.

It is impressive that they found it considering they had a search area that was potentially the size of the continental US.
 

jef

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ABC News gives it a 50% chance it was an explosion... Why? It was a newer plane so it should have been able to avoid/handled lightning/turbulance/bad weather.

Heh - well, it either exploded or it didn't - that's 50%, right???? :D
 
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Still cant believe in todays day and age ,they knew NOTHING about what happened until it was TOO LATE! I'll never fly- people just dont need to die like that!
A moment of silence for the families...
 

Oren

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It's horrible. They've found at least one body (dead and floating) that was registered on that plane. And they have found luggage now.

No one should be scared of flying though. It's just a horrible incident.
 

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I hate flying, it scares the shit out of me. But I have to fly all the time for work. On average twice a month. Sometime more, sometimes less. I doubt I'll ever get on an airplane again once I have a job that doesn't require flying. I just flew out Thursday with every TV in the airport talking about the crash. Very disturbing to hear about that sort of thing when your walking to your flight.

My best to the families of the victims.
 

TheScionicMan

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You're more likely to get killed driving to the airport than you are on a flight. Do you get worried every time you get in your car? Don't forget to balance the crash with the 1000's of flights that have no trouble.

Someone here mentioned flying separately on here and I see there was a story of a family that took separate flights. Each parent took one of the kids and I think it was the wife that was on the doomed flight. When you start thinking of the logic of it, it seems weird. If they fly together , they might all be alive... or all dead... Not sure half is better...
 

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Credit to Ryan At XMFAN

Woman who missed Flight 447 is killed in car crash

An Italian woman who arrived late for the Air France plane flight that crashed in the Atlantic last week has been killed in a car accident.

Johanna Ganthaler, a pensioner from Bolzano-Bozen province, had been on holiday in Brazil with her husband Kurt and missed Air France Flight 447 after turning up late at Rio de Janeiro airport on May 31.

All 228 people aboard lost their lives after the plane crashed into the Atlantic four hours into its flight to Paris.

The ANSA news agency reported that the couple had managed to pick up a flight from Rio the following day.

It said that Ms Ganthaler died when their car veered across a road in Kufstein, Austria, and swerved into an oncoming truck. Her husband was seriously injured.

Woman who missed Flight 447 is killed in car crash - Times Online