Sorry to my Zune pals

TOM C.

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The Apple heads got me last week, I could no longer resist the pull of the darkside. I was brought down with an Ebay 80GIG classic $108. I will need help with itunes, cant do the little things like drag and drop albums into others. I'm sure that the leader in music players software has the bells and whistles, Im used to the Zune software, I had it down pat. I have all my own music, a.books, videos, movies, ect...
I never joined Zune marketplace, and will not be using itunes to buy anything, is there any way to use different program to just manage my OWN music to the Ipod?

Sorry, I know:blah:
 
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AZJoe

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The Apple heads got me last week, I could no longer resist the pull of the darkside. I was brought down with an Ebay 80GIG classic $108. I will need help with itunes, cant do the little things like drag and drop albums into others. I'm sure that the leader in music players software has the bells and whistles, I use to the Zune software, I had it down pat. I have all my own music, a.books, videos, movies, ect...
I never joined Zune marketplace, and will not be using itunes to buy anything, is there any way to use different program to just manage my OWN music to the Ipod?

Sorry, I know:blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:

Why do you need to use another program? Itunes is free and very user friendly, it can manage all your tunes on ur pc and ipod. You don't have to buy anything from Itunes, 23900 out of 24,100 songs on my ipod are not from itunes- and I do quite fine. :bigthumbup:
 

TOM C.

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Why do you need to use another program? Itunes is free and very user friendly, it can manage all your tunes on ur pc and ipod. You don't have to buy anything from Itunes, 23900 out of 24,100 songs on my ipod are not from itunes- and I do quite fine. :bigthumbup:
My only point was I don't know all the little things, Missing LOTS of art, and i like to pull all the single songs into a few albums, easier for me is all. Zune software found ALL my art and all I needed to do drag and drop songs into other albums. Can I do that with itunes?

oh.. just over 10,000 myself, why I upgraded the 30G Zune to the 80G ipod
 

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My only point was I don't know all the little things, Missing LOTS of art, and i like to pull all the single songs into a few albums, easier for me is all. Zune software found ALL my art and all I needed to do drag and drop songs into other albums. Can I do that with itunes?

oh.. just over 10,000 myself, why I upgraded the 30G Zune to the 80G ipod
iTunes is pretty good about finding album art, but the issue I've had with it is that if the name you give an album is different than the iTunes store then it will say it can't find it.

In regards to putting song in certain compilations this is easy to do by simply going to the song clicking on song info and then change sort by name to a specific album name and make sure to check off compliation and it will compile them into a particular album, but still accessible by their original album name, genre etc.

iTunes takes some getting use to, but once you get it, its easy as pie.

The only draw back to programs like Zune Software and iTunes is that they don't actually write the album art info to the ID3 file and so if you move the file to another program it will not include the album art. I generally force iTunes to hard write mine to the ID3 file and over the years I've done it as I've gone along so I never had to do a huge library at once. Now rather I use mine on an iPod or other MP3 player it will include the album art.
 

TOM C.

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iTunes is pretty good about finding album art, but the issue I've had with it is that if the name you give an album is different than the iTunes store then it will say it can't find it.

In regards to putting song in certain compilations this is easy to do by simply going to the song clicking on song info and then change sort by name to a specific album name and make sure to check off compliation and it will compile them into a particular album, but still accessible by their original album name, genre etc.

iTunes takes some getting use to, but once you get it, its easy as pie.

The only draw back to programs like Zune Software and iTunes is that they don't actually write the album art info to the ID3 file and so if you move the file to another program it will not include the album art. I generally force iTunes to hard write mine to the ID3 file and over the years I've done it as I've gone along so I never had to do a huge library at once. Now rather I use mine on an iPod or other MP3 player it will include the album art.
Thanks DAB, all ready started the sorting info you gave, with all my art I was looking for a way to search . I had some missing art with Zune and if you click find/search album art it would give you a ton of close matches, is this something I can do with Itunes
 

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Thanks DAB, all ready started the sorting info you gave, with all my art I was looking for a way to search . I had some missing art with Zune and if you click find/search album art it would give you a ton of close matches, is this something I can do with Itunes
Yes you highlight the album files and then do a right mouse click on Get Album Art. Again if the info doesn't exactly match the iTunes Store you'll be out of luck. I never worry about it though, because I then just go to Amazon's MP3 music store and download it from there and then hard code it to the files. Which is what I always do because I prefer to hard code the album art into my ID3 tags.
 

DAB

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Thank you DAB
You are welcome!

I think you are finding that the transition can sometimes be a bit difficult. Many just don't think the iPod is worth it especially if you are having to transition a large library. When I first got my iPod Touch it was several days of spending a couple of hours here and there working on getting my Library with all the album art and put in the correct genres and compliations like I wanted them. It was well worth the effort though. I am really nit picky when it comes to Album art and when the iPod Touch and that big screen if the album art is too small or not there is just drives me nuts. So, I have to fix those. :)

I hope you enjoy your iPod as much as I enjoy mine!
 
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I think it was Cnet that said "Songbird" can be used as replacement for itunes with your ipod. Mind you I don't have a ipod nor do I use Songbird. Others I know locally have said they like the interface between itunes, and ipod. Most of them are pretty dedicated to apple though.
 

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I used iTunes with my old nano, worked fine, sorted and found all my albumart just fine, as long as it was tagged decently.

However, I also used winamp to sort through stuff too, using the song info lookup plugin. You could have the winamp plugin sort through all your music. I had a bunch of unknown albums and unamed songs, and it sortd through them, uses a music lookup database to sample the music, and tags them for you. It was correct 98% of the time. Sometimes it'd tag it wrong, but if I ran it through again sometimes it'd be fixed, otherwise I'd do it manually.But then, I could also sync my ipod via winamp.