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TSSJimmyCoN

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OK. first of all. A first round pick? I know you're being sarcastic but let's look at this legitimately. Michael Vick is a superstar caliber player. When he left the league....err went to the joint he was coming off a pro bowl season. He's had 3 of them in his 5 year career. say what you will about the man's personality/morals and values but he's a hell of a player. On top of this, supposedly Vick has been playing/training his ass off in prison. Let's face it, some Professional athletes and people get into trouble and Michael Vick was made an example of. I'm not validating any of the crimes he took against these innocent animals but come on....give the dude another shot. He went to prison. He served his time and now he's ready to come back and show the NFL he can make a comeback and serve humanity as well.

Basically my rant is summed up like this

The rights to Michael Vick will basically be traded for I would think NO higher than a 5th round pick....whichever team picks him up, is going to get a freak of an athlete quarterback with a chip on his shoulder but ready to really start lighting things up.

Look at Detroit. Terrible economy. Terrible football team. What could help that? Putting fans asses in the seat. I know I would have rather seen Charlie Ward play for the Lions rather than Charlie Batch (which I have unfortunately) and Mike Vick is a better player than both of them.

the excitement alone would get me to buy a ticket to see the guy play.

I like Michael Vick and people make mistakes in life. Let the guy show us what he's got.....as long as it's in Detroit
 

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Another scenario....Goodell is such a flippy floppy hardass about some things and then looks the other way on others. I wouldn't be surprised if he banned Vick from the NFL for life.

Watch Vick become the first NFLEurope player to get PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAID. I'm talking sponsorships,endorsements. Nobody in Europe would give a damn about what he did here.

secondly, Atlanta only wants to trade him because Matt Ryan came in so well last season. If they didn't have him I would have expected Vick to come back
 

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I think he comes loaded with too much baggage. It would take an exceptional situation to allow him to come back and play in the league. If I were a coach or GM, I wouldn't want the baggage.
 

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This Vick situation will be very interesting. I can’t think of a team where I would say it flat-out makes sense. Ordinarily the first team that would spring to mind would be the Raiders and Al Davis, but they have $32 million sunk into JaMarcus Russell, so why would you muddy those waters by even considering bringing in a Michael Vick?

I think it’s pretty obvious that if Mike Vick does come back to play in the NFL, it won’t be as a starting quarterback again. This is a guy who was a subpar passer when he went to jail. Somehow I’m guessing he hasn't evolved into a Petyon Manning type marksman from the pocket. He’s been too busy making license plates and trading cigarettes for snacks.

But here’s the thing. This “Wildcat” formation is becoming more and more popular in the NFL, and if you can think of a prototypical quarterback who you’d want to run it, Mike Vick would certainly fit that bill. That would be one potential way that a team could use him, as a niche player. I just can’t see anyone trading any assets for him though, can you? So an interested team would probably just need to wait the Falcons out. They’ll have to release him eventually.

And like IdRatherBeSkiing pointed out, there will be plenty of excess baggage that comes along with Vick. You’ll have to deal with PETA pickets outside of your stadium, unwanted media coverage, etc. So will any one of the other 31 teams out there deem him worth the headache to even explore what kind of shape he’s in? Has he lost any of his reflexes after being in jail and not playing for two years? Is he still as quick and nimble as he was? What’s his mental status like after all of this? But there is one positive; he won’t yet be 30 years old if he’s released on time in June or July. So I would guess at some point, someone does end up taking a look at Vick.

Here’s one for you. How about if the Patriots end up trading away Matt Cassel? They’re not going to commit $30 million dollars between two QB’s. So if they think Brady will be healthy enough to get through the season, I just can’t see them holding on to Cassel. And Bill Belichick strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn’t lose any sleep over what anyone else thinks. Tom Brady is his guy, but you know what, on 3rd and goal from the 5 yard line, maybe Michael Vick can be his “Wildcat” quarterback/running back/back-up to Brady. It makes sense. So I’m not suggesting I think New England would do it. But if you were to ask me to name a team that might at least contemplate it, under those circumstances where they peel off Cassel, New England is a team that immediately comes to mind.

Hey, the New York Jets have an opening. You think the New York media would have fun with Vick and the Jets?

And by the way TSSJimmy, I don't think Vick will be playing for NFL Europe. As of 2007, there's no such thing. Goodell pulled the plug.
 
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TSSJimmyCoN

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You're absolutely right....I meant Canada. Same difference.

Either way you made some really good points but one thing we both forgot to mention....ANY team who is even interested in a trade for vick is looking at picking up his salary of $9 million. I don't really see ANYONE paying $9 million for an ex con besides an idiot like Al Davis or perhaps Jerry Jones but I think Romo is set and like you said, Jamarcus Russell is still developing.
 

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Maybe the Browns should take a chance on him. They could rename the 'dawg pound' to the 'pit'.

Seriously, if the Raiders can't find room for him, he won't be playing in the NFL. Pac-Man Jones seems to find teams after all his arrests and associations with other bad incidents, so he has a small chance.
 

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Houston is about to trade their second string QB Sage Rosenfels to the Vikings for a 4th round pick. So they'll be in need of a serviceable backup for Matty Glass-Jaw (Schaub). Who knows, maybe Mike Vick will be a Texan next year. I'm not sure if I'd be in favor of that or not. I'd say it's very unlikely in the first place though.
 
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While what he did was horrible, he did the time. He paid for it, so IMO when his sentence is done he's a free man, who deserves a second chance. I would like to see him play again, but that 9 million dollar price tag is not good for his chances. 9 mil certainly is a high price for all the baggage you get, and I'm not sure he's worth 9 mil in the first place. I don't think he's a very good NFL QB. He IS, however, a trememdous athlete with tons of talent. If he could find a system that can take advantage of all his talent, he could be a huge difference maker.

I hope he gets a chance to redeem himself, maybe something could be worked out over the 9 million. Of course that all depends on Roger Goodell. He did give Pac Man 3 or 4 chances. Will he give Vick a 2nd chance?

BTW, is Pac Man done? Or just cut from the Cowgirls?