New NFL Alignment

Discussion in 'NFL' started by TX WJ, Dec 20, 2008.

  1. TX WJ

    TX WJ Intelligent Donkey

    With the new 4 team divisions, winning the division does not mean what it once did since you play only 6 games in your division and 10 games outside your division under the current format.

    I would like to see them go back to 4 divisions, 2 Divisions in each conference.

    You would then play each team in your division twice that would be 14 games, play the other two games on a rotation, you would play the same seed as you (from the previous year twice one home / one away)

    Division Champs would get first round bye, there will be four wildcards from the AFC, four from the NFC.
    Wildcards will go to the four teams in each conference with the best records regardless of division.
    First tie breaker Head to Head
    Second Tie Breaker Conf Record
    Third Tie Breaker Division Record


    The New NFC

    NFC East
    Giants 11-3
    Steelers 11-3
    Ravens 9-5
    Patriots 9-5
    Jets 9-5
    Eagles 8-5-1
    Bills 6-8
    Browns 4-12


    NFC West

    Cowboys 9-5
    Broncos 8-6
    Cardinals 8-6
    Chargers 6-8
    Texans 7-7
    49ers 5-9
    Raiders 3-11
    Seahawks 3-11

    The New AFC

    AFC North
    Colts 11-4
    Vikings 9-5
    Bears 8-6
    Packers 5-9
    Bengals 2-11-1
    Rams 2-12
    Chiefs 2-12
    Lions 0-14

    AFC South

    Titans 12-2
    Panthers 11-3
    Falcons 9-5
    Dolphins 9-5
    Buc's 9-5
    Saints 7-7
    Redskins 7-7
    Jaguars 5-10
     
  2. Wolf

    Wolf The Lone Wolf

    I see what you are saying and I can understand, but to me I like to see some teams stay in some areas and probably start some new feuds? I didn't label what divisions should be in what conferences, so here my idea but this is only if they had eight teams in each division.

    East
    Bills
    Eagles
    Giants
    Jets
    Patriots
    Ravens
    Redskins
    Steelers

    West
    49ers
    Broncos
    Cardinals
    Chargers
    Chiefs
    Raiders
    Rams
    Seahawks

    North
    Bears
    Bengals
    Browns
    Colts
    Lions
    Packers
    Titans
    Vikings

    South
    Buccaneers
    Cowboys
    Dolphins
    Falcons
    Jaguars
    Panthers
    Saints
    Texans

    I wanted to keep the Titans in the South, but I couldn't think of moving anyone out of the West or South? To me the old Oilers now the Titans play against the Cowboys and Texans.

    Also I'm getting tired of these first round bye's, just have 2 divisions champs in each conference and 6 wild cards. So it can make it an even 8 of total of 16 teams making the playoffs.
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2008
  3. Aaron

    Aaron Moderator

    I would keep it the way it is.

    I just don't believe it's right to reward the winner of a bad division with a home game. If the AFC West champs Broncos should play the Wild Card Colts, who have a better record, I'd like for the Colts to have the home game.
     
  4. TSSJimmyCoN

    TSSJimmyCoN Member

    the lions will never become part of the AFC, that is ludicrous
     
  5. TX WJ

    TX WJ Intelligent Donkey

    I think that if the Broncos get in the playoffs with a 9 and 7 records, and you have 10 and 11 win teams at home is bad for the league.

    I agree that people like variety but with regional rivalries I think you would see some interesting matchup’s reappear.

    To me the best solution would be to eliminate all divisions, take the top 6 teams from each conference and have playoffs from them. Number 1 and 2 seeds get a bye, the 3-6 play wildcard weekend. I think you have to keep the bye to rewards teams for having the best record.

    To add variety and make it as fair as possible you would play everyone in your conference once each year, one year at home, the next away. The other game (or 3 if we go to a 18 game schedule) would be played against the opposite conference in some kind of rotation.

    That way you would have schedules that are about equal as far as strength of schedule is concerned and you would have a head to head battle with each team in your conference each year.

    The NFC

    Giants 11-3
    Panthers 11-3
    Vikings 9-5
    Cowboys 9-5
    Falcons 9-5
    Buc's 9-5
    Eagles 8-5-1
    Cardinals 8-6
    Bears 8-6
    Saints 7-7
    Redskins 7-7
    49ers 5-9
    Packers 5-9
    Seahawks 3-11
    Rams 2-12
    Lions 0-14

    The AFC

    Titans 12-2
    Steelers 11-3
    Colts 11-4
    Jets 9-5
    Ravens 9-5
    Dolphins 9-5
    Patriots 9-5
    Broncos 8-6
    Texans 7-7
    Bills 6-8
    Chargers 6-8
    Jaguars 5-10
    Browns 4-12
    Raiders 3-11
    Bengals 2-11-1
    Chiefs 2-12
     
  6. RoadRunner

    RoadRunner Member

    It's worse that you suggest TX. If the Chargers lose this afternoon, the Broncos could HOST a playoff game as division champs with a 8-8 record!! The other horrible possibility in that division is for SD to win out, and Denver lose today and next week, making SD the division champs at 8-8 and (again) hosting a wildcard that is 2 or 3 games better.

    I don't know which would be harder; being a fan of the 0-14 Lions (laughingstock of the league), or of the AFC champion (poster boys for a broken playoff system).
     
  7. AJ_II

    AJ_II Well-Known Member

    This is nothing new. Division champs with worse records have hosted better Wild Card teams in the past. Just off the top of my head, I remember last season Pittsburgh (10-6) hosted Jacksonville (11-5) in the first round.

    Home field advantage in the NFL is extremely overrated anyway. Probably why Wild Card teams have won so many Super Bowls. College is completely different...home field is everything in the college game.
     
  8. IdRatherBeSkiing

    IdRatherBeSkiing Sherbert is not and never will be ice cream

    I would keep it like it is except:

    1) Once the 6 playoff teams are determined .... division record means nothing. Seed them best record to worst / conference.
    2) Remove the automatic from the 4th best division winner in each conference. Arizona and Denver/SD would need to be better than another division leader or qualify as a wildcard to make the playoffs.

    Here is an example:

    AFC

    1. Tennessee (14-2 AFC South division winner)
    2. Indianapolis (12-4 Wildcard)
    3. Pittsburgh (11-5 AFC North division winner)
    4. Baltimore Ravens (11-5 Wildcard)
    5. New York Jets (11-5 AFC East divsion winner)
    6. Miami Dolphins (10-6 Wildcard)
    Missed playoff: Denver (9-7 AFC West division winner)

    NFC

    1. Carolina Panthers (13-3 NFC South division winner)
    2. Minnesota Vikings (11-5 NFC North division winner)
    3. New York Giants (11-5 NFC East division winner)
    4. Philladelphia Eagles (10-5-1 Wildcard)
    5. Tampa Bay Buccenerrs (10-6 Wildcard)
    6. Atlanta Falcons (10-6 Wildgard)
    Missed playoff: Arizona Cardinals (9-7 NFC West division winner)
     
  9. Deacon

    Deacon Member

    I'll tell you the thing I'm sick of and it playing the Super Bowl in a nice warm sunny or Domed stadium. These guys play all year in all different envionments then come the most important game of the year and it is in a beautiful weather stadium (i know there are exception...it actually rains every once in a while).

    Every team should host a Super Bowl. Period. Start in the Northeast and work your way around counterclockwise or start in the Southwest or whatever.

    That's what i think.
     
  10. Wolf

    Wolf The Lone Wolf

    To me right now all of the division are fine right now, just make the playoff system16 teams not 12 teams!
     
  11. TX WJ

    TX WJ Intelligent Donkey

    Four team divisons are a joke, you have 6 games per year in your divison.

    You could go undefeated in your division and still not win your division.
     
  12. AJ_II

    AJ_II Well-Known Member

    Just to give some evidence to my claim that home field "advantage" is overrated in the NFL, all four visiting teams are favored in games this weekend.

    Indy by 2
    Atlanta by 2.5
    Baltimore by 3
    Philly by 2
     
  13. IdRatherBeSkiing

    IdRatherBeSkiing Sherbert is not and never will be ice cream


    The 2 worst teams won probably partially because of homefield advantage.
     
  14. AJ_II

    AJ_II Well-Known Member

    I'm not saying there's ZERO advantage with homefield. What I am saying, however, is that it is very overrated. The media makes it out to be this big deal, almost like a be-all, end-all sort of thing. And it's just not. Professional football players don't get rattled on the road like college student athletes do. The Giants went on the road for three straight weeks in last year's playoffs and won each time, including at Dallas (the overwhelming NFC favorite at the time) and at Lambeau Field in sub-zero temperatures. Pittsburgh accomplished the same feat as well a few years back as a six seed.

    How many times do you see both number one seeds in the Super Bowl? How many times have Wild Cards made the Super Bowl?

    I disagree that San Diego is one of the worst teams. Don't let the 8-8 record fool you; I'm actually leaning towards them this weekend at Pittsburgh. As far as Atlanta losing...Matt Ryan had an excellent season, but he was still a rookie QB in his first playoff game. Joe Flacco was in the same situation and ended up winning, but he had that stellar Raven defense on his side. Ryan did not.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2009
  15. AJ_II

    AJ_II Well-Known Member

    Home teams' record so far in the playoffs...2-4. And I expect at least one more to lose today.
     
  16. semipenguin

    semipenguin Cheeseburger Connoisseur

    Pittsburgh...:)
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