If and when internet radio is truly mobile?

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Its a big if and a big when. Also it would have to cost less than the cost of satrad to consider. And I am talking about the cost of delivering the internet to your car not the cost of the internet radio station itself.

I also think internet radio is sitting on a precipise with regards to the RIAA.
 

hank-the-dwarf

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Its a big if and a big when. Also it would have to cost less than the cost of satrad to consider. And I am talking about the cost of delivering the internet to your car not the cost of the internet radio station itself.

I also think internet radio is sitting on a precipise with regards to the RIAA.
they got that bill passed that forces the greedy bastards to negotiate a fair rate.I'm thinking first the will all follow slackers lead with the portable-refresh your channels kinda thing-good idea i think-coast to coast wifi will take awhile i think.
 

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Would any of u consider canceling satrad?Also when this happens how will satrad adjust?
I have no allegiance to the type of antenna on my car. I'll always go with the best audio entertainment for the cost. Right now that is Sirius. But if Wifi allowed me to get a better entertainment experience in my car, I'd be all over it. Oh, and whatever service is carrying the Stern show will ALWAYS be installed in my car and home, that's a given!

One of these days, the music industry will eliminate all the needless middlemen and more acts will deal more or less directly with the consumer. When that happens, it'll be easier to for services like internet radio to succeed since they wont have to deal with monopolistic industries with old fashioned mindsets.
 

hank-the-dwarf

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I have no allegiance to the type of antenna on my car. I'll always go with the best audio entertainment for the cost. Right now that is Sirius. But if Wifi allowed me to get a better entertainment experience in my car, I'd be all over it. Oh, and whatever service is carrying the Stern show will ALWAYS be installed in my car and home, that's a given!

One of these days, the music industry will eliminate all the needless middlemen and more acts will deal more or less directly with the consumer. When that happens, it'll be easier to for services like internet radio to succeed since they wont have to deal with monopolistic industries with old fashioned mindsets.
Amen except for the Stern part-I was a fan for 15yrs the first 10yrs i worked at nite so i would set my alarm for 6am just to listen while i was going to sleep(that drove my wife nuts)Personally i think he droped the ball about a year after the move to sirius.Satrad was really great though for a long time with me-i just listened to the music channels more and more and heard all kinds of bands that i forgot about and havent heard of.It spoiled me so that i wanted more.I will never ever go back to Fm ever-Satrad did open me to so much more
 

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Amen except for the Stern part-I was a fan for 15yrs the first 10yrs i worked at nite so i would set my alarm for 6am just to listen while i was going to sleep(that drove my wife nuts)Personally i think he droped the ball about a year after the move to sirius.Satrad was really great though for a long time with me-i just listened to the music channels more and more and heard all kinds of bands that i forgot about and havent heard of.It spoiled me so that i wanted more.I will never ever go back to Fm ever-Satrad did open me to so much more
Actually, I think I have become less interested in the music on Sirius the past couple of years. I have 100/101 broadcasting in the house 24/7. I make my own "podcasts" from Sirius by recording Howard, Bubba, and some of the other shows in addition to recording hours and hours of music and standup comedy each week that I also throw on my ipod. So in my car, I pretty much stick to my ipod. I find that I barely have enough time each week to get through the 24 hours of Stern that I record!
 

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Actually, I think I have become less interested in the music on Sirius the past couple of years. I have 100/101 broadcasting in the house 24/7. I make my own "podcasts" from Sirius by recording Howard, Bubba, and some of the other shows in addition to recording hours and hours of music and standup comedy each week that I also throw on my ipod. So in my car, I pretty much stick to my ipod. I find that I barely have enough time each week to get through the 24 hours of Stern that I record!
It feels good to not be in the strangle hold of testical radio any longer doesnt it!Also not having to change a cd!
 

hank-the-dwarf

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I can see myself canceling my 2 sub's to Sirius once Howard retires and going with Pandora or similar.
i think satrad can adapt they already stream,but somebody's buisness model will have to change-there can be a service that charges a fee and one that doesnt-somebody will have to change.
 

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I'm always thinking about stuff like will people automatically switch over to the next thing when its new. Stuff doesn't go away as fast as we think. Satellite Radio is still growing. A lot of people may find better matches for themselves but many find a tremendous enjoyment in Satellite Radio as a mainstream entertainment source now.

I would always want to find out why college kids weren't into SIRIUS as say people a little bit older. And I found out that a lot of them were so good and so fast at just finding free songs to download or get from others. They knew all the places to get free stuff. But learning about those places still does take time. What I learned later on is that ONCE they got into the working world things changed. They didn't have the time to go out and find stuff quite as easy. Then at that time Satellite Radio or Pandora or Slacker became far more appealing. Then if they spent too much time listening to the same music over and over they might have moved to the talk radio format.

But even with new technologies and services not as many people are giving up the old ones. Most people add them on. Newspapers have been around forever and still are around. Just because we got TVs, then the internet doesn't mean that people just gave up on Newspapers. There is a convenience factor that goes on for a lot of this and thats why some survive stronger than others.

But SIRIUS XM isn't going away as a service anytime soon. That's for sure.
 

hank-the-dwarf

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I'm always thinking about stuff like will people automatically switch over to the next thing when its new. Stuff doesn't go away as fast as we think. Satellite Radio is still growing. A lot of people may find better matches for themselves but many find a tremendous enjoyment in Satellite Radio as a mainstream entertainment source now.

I would always want to find out why college kids weren't into SIRIUS as say people a little bit older. And I found out that a lot of them were so good and so fast at just finding free songs to download or get from others. They knew all the places to get free stuff. But learning about those places still does take time. What I learned later on is that ONCE they got into the working world things changed. They didn't have the time to go out and find stuff quite as easy. Then at that time Satellite Radio or Pandora or Slacker became far more appealing. Then if they spent too much time listening to the same music over and over they might have moved to the talk radio format.

But even with new technologies and services not as many people are giving up the old ones. Most people add them on. Newspapers have been around forever and still are around. Just because we got TVs, then the internet doesn't mean that people just gave up on Newspapers. There is a convenience factor that goes on for a lot of this and thats why some survive stronger than others.

But SIRIUS XM isn't going away as a service anytime soon. That's for sure.
I dont think they will go anywhere just change,maybe dump the birds and just stream-that will be a while though.
 

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I would always want to find out why college kids weren't into SIRIUS as say people a little bit older. And I found out that a lot of them were so good and so fast at just finding free songs to download or get from others. They knew all the places to get free stuff. But learning about those places still does take time. What I learned later on is that ONCE they got into the working world things changed. They didn't have the time to go out and find stuff quite as easy.
That's exactly how I was. In college (back in the mid/late 1990's) I downloaded tons and tons of songs off the original Napster (before it got popular and sued out of existence...). Same goes for software, I used to get pirate copies of anything that I needed. After college you don't have as much time to go searching for that sort of thing, plus you aren't as broke as you used to be. These days I have no problem paying for music (or software) that I want.
 

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Amen except for the Stern part-I was a fan for 15yrs the first 10yrs i worked at nite so i would set my alarm for 6am just to listen while i was going to sleep(that drove my wife nuts)Personally i think he droped the ball about a year after the move to sirius.Satrad was really great though for a long time with me-i just listened to the music channels more and more and heard all kinds of bands that i forgot about and havent heard of.It spoiled me so that i wanted more.I will never ever go back to Fm ever-Satrad did open me to so much more
Never thought I'd be agreeing with Hank. But I don't even listen to Stern anymore. It's too contrived and essentially lame. Doublee's MP3s will be enough for my MP3 player.
 

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I think Sirius XM will be able to adapt as long as people keep finding ways to listen to Sirius online. We have Sirius on the iphone, Starplayr, etc. What I'm hoping is that Sirius XM will one day have the money to pay to have the rights to carry their entire channel lineup online.
 

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I think as more and more cars get bluetooth streaming input, your radio will get its signal from your phone which Hopefully is streaming internet Sirius. Higher Bandwidth than the Birds....
 

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I think Sirius XM will be able to adapt as long as people keep finding ways to listen to Sirius online. We have Sirius on the iphone, Starplayr, etc. What I'm hoping is that Sirius XM will one day have the money to pay to have the rights to carry their entire channel lineup online.
This would be excellent. I don't see that happening even within the next 5 years, but who knows, miracles do happen.