Howard "Sceeved Out" Because Leno Only Gets $20 Million?

Jgatie

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I can only imagine the Jay Leno ass-kissing forum you all must belong to. Bet there's no critical threads there...
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Scionic my man, I just noticed this. Thumbs up for post of the week!! I'd give you some rep if it hadn't been stolen by the little children.

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So you think that Stuttering John was a good selection for the announcer for The Tonight Show? You think he was hired because of his great voice or his on-screen talents. It's hard for me to tell based on how little they use him despite the $$ they pay him.

I think Howard was right on this. Jay thought he could take another bit from Howard's show and make his show better. When Howard called him out on it, Jay had to try and act like he wanted him for other reasons and now he is stuck in a no win - admit to Howard he was right and let John go or remain stuck with a guy you can barely utilize like you had planned.
If I recall, Jay Leno thought that an unconventional choice like Stuttering John would rejuvenate the show a bit. He didn't choose him for a great voice. Even with that, it didn't seem to me that John was so wonderful. However, I do not think for a minute that Leno was trying to steal from Howard. I think he honestly thought Howard would be happy for John that he had moved on to a job that paid 5 to 10 times (I'm guessing) what he was making. Also there was no motive to fuck with Howard. You have to be crazy to start a war with Howard. And at that time, John was not in the same league as Robin, Fred, Jackie or Artie. In fact, Howard would periodically remind John - Hero of the Stupid - that he was easily replaceable.
 
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Howard is obviously blinded by his pure hatred for Leno. Why does he care if the guy turns down more money because he feels he makes enough. Sounds pretty damn admirable to me.

what do u expect from howard? its been obvious he's greedy as hell. which is why all his guys minus fred, robin, artie, jon hein and gary are all struggling to make ends meet. jay leno giving his guys a xmas bonus of $1000 times the # of years they've been there out of his own pockets should also be frowned upon in stern's book im sure as well. I really thought this jay leno rant was totally unfounded and stupid IMO.
 

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I remember John saying on the air that he asked Tom for a raise. Tom said he would rather die than give him more money. I don't think Howard had anything to do with it. I guess he was making $50,000 and he was offered $500,000 from Leno. I know Fred was real pissed that John left. I don't know if it's because of how he left or if it's the amount of money he is being paid on Leno. Howard always said he wasn't mad at John. He was mad at Leno because he never gave him a heads up. I don't know what good that would have done. Tom was super super cheap.
whats even worse is that tom was being cheap when terrestrial radio business was booming, and they were making money hand over fist (a lot cuz of stern), but still, when they were making so much money as a company, they could have paid john a little more. personally I have been offered higher paying jobs, and turned it down to stay at the same job which offered me a little more money in comparision. I wonder if infinity could have done that with john back then.
 

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Unfortunately, I think this debate is even broader than what we've discussed here. The fact is our society likes paying people who really don't deserve it. If you can throw a football or sing a song well, you'll make more money than if you're a doctor saving lives or teaching children how to read and write.
 

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Whoa... major, major all-encompassing Jay Leno rant today. Leno had the audacity to say that he thought Howard's move to Sirius was a mistake. Why.did he say that ? ... because the commuters and truck drivers who used to listen to him don't seem to be talking about him as they did. So..it was not a slam at Howard... In fact, he was acknowledging Howard's popularity and a kind of regret that the truck driving folks who did not sign up for Sirius no longer had Howard in the morning. Howard's rant included that indefensible and seriously unfunny Richard and Sal paste together of Leno talking about Mavis getting fucked by a bunch of black guys. Howard needs an intervention here. Beth.... we need you to do something.
 

beaniemac

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Whoa... major, major all-encompassing Jay Leno rant today. Leno had the audacity to say that he thought Howard's move to Sirius was a mistake. Why.did he say that ? ... because the commuters and truck drivers who used to listen to him don't seem to be talking about him as they did. So..it was not a slam at Howard... In fact, he was acknowledging Howard's popularity and a kind of regret that the truck driving folks who did not sign up for Sirius no longer had Howard in the morning. Howard's rant included that indefensible and seriously unfunny Richard and Sal paste together of Leno talking about Mavis getting fucked by a bunch of black guys. Howard needs an intervention here. Beth.... we need you to do something.
ever since howard's rant about jay NOT taking a raise, I have really been getting tired of him talking about jay. yeah the jay leno impression is funny, but they have no substance behind it. I mean what is jay really doing to howard? In my opinion, its pretty much nothing. and I highly doubt jay cares regardless about what howard says.