Dave Matthews Radio

Fergz99

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Jam On is leaving for a week for Dave Matthews Radio. I like DMB, I would not listen to a channel of nothing but DMB, and Jam On is kind of a strange place to put it.

I really would like to see what info Sirius/XM has about single artist channels to justify doing so many of them.
 

Jon

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Dave Matthews Band is a jam band. Although I don't see why they don't put the SAC online and leave Jam On alone.
 

Kryptonite

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Jam_ON seems like an appropriate place to me. :cool:

For those interested, this came in the e-mail advertisement:

Please note: Jam On programming will continue to be streamed online at www.sirius.com/siriusinternetradio.


That makes sense. Channel 17 online is regular programming. Channel 810 (Limited Engagements) is Dave Matthews Band.

It actually makes sense. :)
 

no1hedberg

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They get more cash this way.

Who gets more cash from where? They pay the artist to use their name and likeness. They don't sell adds on those channels. They don't add subscribers because of single artist channels. Plus the fact that these channels are universally hated by current subs who want to cancel because of them. I don't see the benefit here. :soapbox: If they want to do something constructive, why don't they fix the 90's on lithium plus lucy channel. And all the other channels they made unlistenable after the merger. The whole point of having all these channels is to program genre specific music.
 

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Who gets more cash from where? They pay the artist to use their name and likeness. They don't sell adds on those channels. They don't add subscribers because of single artist channels. Plus the fact that these channels are universally hated by current subs who want to cancel because of them. I don't see the benefit here. :soapbox: If they want to do something constructive, why don't they fix the 90's on lithium plus lucy channel. And all the other channels they made unlistenable after the merger. The whole point of having all these channels is to program genre specific music.

The record company pays Sirius XM to promote their artist. I believe they woud include the rights to the name for the duration of the channel.

I agree with you --- these channels suck.
 

Kryptonite

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90's on lithium plus lucy channel.

Channel 24 appears to be fairly decent. I do see two issues with it:

1) "90's alternative" is too broad a genre. You have grunge, the "middle-stuff" like Cake, 311 and Oasis, up to stuff like Third Eye Blind, Limp Bizkit, perhaps Korn, etc.

2) Once in a rare while, I hear something like Incubus from 2000 or 2001 on there. I'll hear occasional other songs from early this decade on there as well. Those songs don't belong on Lithium. (If the song wasn't released between 1/1/90 and 12/31/99, don't put it on there.)
 

no1hedberg

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The record company pays Sirius XM to promote their artist.

I have always been told that Sirius pays the artist to use their name and likeness. I'm pretty sure that more accurately portrays the arrangement.

Channel 24 appears to be fairly decent. I do see two issues with it:

1) "90's alternative" is too broad a genre. You have grunge, the "middle-stuff" like Cake, 311 and Oasis, up to stuff like Third Eye Blind, Limp Bizkit, perhaps Korn, etc.

2) Once in a rare while, I hear something like Incubus from 2000 or 2001 on there. I'll hear occasional other songs from early this decade on there as well. Those songs don't belong on Lithium. (If the song wasn't released between 1/1/90 and 12/31/99, don't put it on there.)

The problem is Lithium is and always was 90's alternative/grunge, until XM and Zellner came along and screwed it up. My point is there is room for my grunge channel and your "middle stuff" channel. This mash up doesn't work. I don't listen to any music channels any more.
 

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I have always been told that Sirius pays the artist to use their name and likeness. I'm pretty sure that more accurately portrays the arrangement.

With exception to the Elvis channel where Sirius pays 50% of the channel cost, the channel is 100% funded by the artist or more accuratly the record company. Sirius XM certainly does not pay for these channels. They do the press release like it is something all their listeners have been clamoring for just to try to sell the channel (which is probably a term for receiving the cash from the record company).

Actually, come to think of it, there are more exceptions which is probably what you are hearing about. Willie's Place, The Frank Sinatra channel, Shade 45 are channels where Sirius or XM paid to use the likeneess. These are different than your everyday single artist channel such as DMB, Abba Radio, Led Zepplin Radio, Fireman Radio, E Street Radio, The Dead, etc.
 

Kryptonite

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The problem is Lithium is and always was 90's alternative/grunge, until XM and Zellner came along and screwed it up. My point is there is room for my grunge channel and your "middle stuff" channel. This mash up doesn't work. I don't listen to any music channels any more.

Yeah. A channel for "90's alternative" is way the hell too broad. You might as well merge Boneyard and Octane into a "pure rock" channel. (If Sirius XM is listening, DON'T. I'm being sarcastic.)

Anyway, I agree. Split them up. Put Cake and Matchbox 20 on one channel and split the 1990-1994 stuff on another.
 

Kryptonite

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This is how it should have been done from day 1, a week or 2 of a single artist.

What about this?

Every Friday at 6 PM ET through Monday at 5 AM ET in one month.


I do like what they're doing now. The new SIR channel is 24/7 DMB, while the internet version of channel 17 is regular programming.