Crabtree a diva!

Aaron

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Crabtree is trying to get paid off perception, not reality.
Just sign a darn contract... if you are as good as you think you are, the money will find you eventually.

Wide receivers are the worst!
 

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I don't think NFL Player contracts are guarenteed :right:

The only money that is guaranteed is the bonus money :worried:

I don't blame him. These players play hard. A career ending injury could leave the broke for the rest of their lives while the team owner continues to make money.

The 49ers are my favorite team, but I don't blame Crabtree one bit.

Joe Montana has to pimp himself out to anyone who will pay him to endores their product. That after 4 Super Bowl Championships, 3 Super Bowl MVPs, & countless other awards that won't get him a coffee at the Dunkin' Donuts.
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Joe Montana has to pimp himself out to anyone who will pay him to endores their product. That after 4 Super Bowl Championships, 3 Super Bowl MVPs, & countless other awards that won't get him a coffee at the Dunkin' Donuts.
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Thats because rookies get all the money to start. I think the players contracts suck. The NFL can let them go anytime they want for any reason. The players can't just pick up and go to another team any time they want. It's really not fair so I do see your point there.

What Crabtree doesn't realize is the fact that his team mates(if he does sign) will resent him and every time he drops a pass he will hear nothing but shit. He needs to realize that there is a pecking order to the draft. He wasn't drafted higher. Who's fault is that? Was it Crabtrees? If teams see an attitude right away the will pass. Thats exactley what the browns did. Maybe just maybe if he wasn't so cocky he would have been drafted higher. Just based on his talent he should have been so something was a miss with him. Just saying.....
 

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I'd take the resentment :)

He will be a great asset to the 49ers. They wouldn't have taken him in the first round if he wasn't worth it :rolleyes:
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I'd take the resentment :)

He will be a great asset to the 49ers. They wouldn't have taken him in the first round if he wasn't worth it :rolleyes:
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Ofcourse he's worth it. No one said he was't worth a first round pick. All I'm saying is if he would of kept his mouth shut he might of been a top 5 pick.
 

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Why do people seem to think a players need to keep their mouths shut? :scratch:
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Why do people seem to think a players need to keep their mouths shut? :scratch:
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If you like players that only care about themselves then thats all you. I never would have thought Crabtree would be like that. Anyway How hard is it to shut up and get drafted #4 or 5? Then he would have got the money he wants now.

So they don't become Terrell Owens, whom the same Niners traded because he was a dick. ;)

Exactley!!!!! So opening his mouth probably cost him a lot. If he does hold out to be redrafted he might not be taken as high as he was this time. It's players like that who take away from the team and make it all about them.
 

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If you like players that only care about themselves then thats all you. I never would have thought Crabtree would be like that. Anyway How hard is it to shut up and get drafted #4 or 5? Then he would have got the money he wants now.



Exactley!!!!! So opening his mouth probably cost him a lot. If he does hold out to be redrafted he might not be taken as high as he was this time. It's players like that who take away from the team and make it all about them.

I hate it when ROOKIES do this crap. If you have played for a few years, really proven yourself and then want to demand a super high salary when your contract is up, I totally understand. But for a good college player to come in and try to boss hog ownership is ridiculous.
 

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It's to bad he's turing out to be a dick. He's a great player and one of the best recievers I've ever seen. I guess the Browns were right when they called him a diva. I know people laughed at them and said no way. Well........ They were right.

Haha, yes, he's a dick because he wants a fair contract. What an asshole!

This whole thing has been blown out of proportion. It wasn't Crabtree, or even his agent, who said these things. It was his advisor (his cousin) who came out and made the statement about sitting out the season - without Crabtree's knowledge or consent!

Crabtree just wants to be paid fairly. He wants to be paid in accordance with being the number ten pick...he wants to be offered a contract in the neighborhood of Darrius Heyward-Bey's, who was the number seven pick and first WR taken. I think that's only fair.

Rookie holdouts are commonplace in the NFL. Crabtree and the 49ers will agree on a contract soon enough.

By the way, good luck to the Browns with....Alex Mack is it? :rolleyes:
 

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Haha, yes, he's a dick because he wants a fair contract. What an asshole!

This whole thing has been blown out of proportion. It wasn't Crabtree, or even his agent, who said these things. It was his advisor (his cousin) who came out and made the statement about sitting out the season - without Crabtree's knowledge or consent!

Crabtree just wants to be paid fairly. He wants to be paid in accordance with being the number ten pick...he wants to be offered a contract in the neighborhood of Darrius Heyward-Bey's, who was the number seven pick and first WR taken. I think that's only fair.

Rookie holdouts are commonplace in the NFL. Crabtree and the 49ers will agree on a contract soon enough.

By the way, good luck to the Browns with....Alex Mack is it? :rolleyes:

I'm all for him getting a fair contract. I know he's your boy from Texas Tech and all, but come on. First off shut your cousin up quick. So was it his cousin that acted like a diva when the Browns were intrested? The difference between himself and of Darrius Heyward-Bey's is 3 picks. There is a pecking order. It's unoffical I know but its always been like that. There has to be a reason why he went later in the draft. I don't think it's the foot. I think it was his mouth.

Say what you want about the Browns atleast they won't have a player that is all about himself and not the team :rolleyes:. Crabtree could atleast be at camp working while negotiations are going on. Lots of players have done that.

I don't want to fight with you. I like Crabtree. I think he's great. I just hope a new T.O. isn't born out of this.
 

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First off shut your cousin up quick. So was it his cousin that acted like a diva when the Browns were intrested? The difference between himself and of Darrius Heyward-Bey's is 3 picks. There is a pecking order. It's unoffical I know but its always been like that. There has to be a reason why he went later in the draft. I don't think it's the foot. I think it was his mouth.

I believe he has "shut his cousin up quick". Have you heard anything else from him?

I realize there are three picks separating Crabtree and Heyward-Bey. I'm not suggesting Crabtree should get a better contract than him, or even a contract on par with his. But it shouldn't be significantly less, and I think that's the area of discontent with Crabtree. You have no idea the negotiations that take place...to call him a "dick" because of what you perceive from reading an online article is arrogant...stupid.

Besides, if he acted like a so-called diva while working out for the Browns, I can't blame him. Who'd want to go to Cleveland anyway?
 

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I believe he has "shut his cousin up quick". Have you heard anything else from him?

I realize there are three picks separating Crabtree and Heyward-Bey. I'm not suggesting Crabtree should get a better contract than him, or even a contract on par with his. But it shouldn't be significantly less, and I think that's the area of discontent with Crabtree. You have no idea the negotiations that take place...to call him a "dick" because of what you perceive from reading an online article is arrogant...stupid.

Besides, if he acted like a so-called diva while working out for the Browns, I can't blame him. Who'd want to go to Cleveland anyway?

First off AJ. I'm neither arrogant or stupid. If you really think I'm stupid because I read that artical and some others and thought that you can kiss my ass. I never said I knew what was going on in negotiations. All I know is the guys isn't in camp. That can only hurt him and the team. Some of us are actually from Cleveland so watch your mouth. Like San Fran has been a top team lately.
 

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I never said I knew what was going on in negotiations.

Oh but you must know! You're calling the guy a "dick" and a "diva" for not signing a contract, right? Why would you do that without first-hand knowledge of the situation?

The reality is, you don't know the specifics of the contract. The 49ers could be offering him a shit deal. You don't know. Crabtree is free to negotiate how he likes. If the 49ers want him in training camp, they'll offer him a fair deal. That's how it works.

By the way, Tyson Jackson is still unsigned. Is he a "diva"? What about Aaron Curry? Knowshon Moreno? B.J. Raji...is he a "dick"? Eugene Monroe? Aaron Maybin? Etc, etc, etc.
 

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Anybody holding out now is STUPID. He better get what he can NOW before the union and owners have their get-together to talk rookie salaries.

My bet is that the owners will NOT back down on these out-of-control payouts for unproven rookies.

Which is why if I had been a player in college this last go-around I would have gone to the draft and not stayed in school another year.
 

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By the way, Tyson Jackson is still unsigned. Is he a "diva"? What about Aaron Curry? Knowshon Moreno? B.J. Raji...is he a "dick"? Eugene Monroe? Aaron Maybin? Etc, etc, etc.

If stories about all of them came out before the draft like Crabtree then I would say yes. Look I get why your taking it so personal. I would say the same thing about any of the Ohio State players that were doing that before and after the draft.

Its clear as day that you have a problem with me because I started this thread. I'm going to stop posting in it before I say something I will regret later on. Don't ever call me arrogant or stupid again. I'm far from it.
 

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By the way, good luck to the Browns with....Alex Mack is it? :rolleyes:

I initially thought the same thing but my views have changed since the draft. A center or OL is not a sexy pick, but a very important building block to the team. The OL has always sucked for the browns since my childhood, so it's nice to have management who will take the approach of building the team from the line outward. Will it work? Who knows. But having a shitty line and QBs/RBs that are often blasted due to holds in the line didn't work in the past.

Having a pick that gets in camp early without the typical high-pick sideshows is a good thing.
 

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Don't ever call me arrogant or stupid again. I'm far from it.

I didn't call you either of those things. Reading your posts throughout this message board, I'm sure you are far from it.

I called what you did arrogant and stupid. Judging a situation without first-hand knowledge of it is dumb, at least to me. This has nothing to do with Crabtree being a Red Raider. Players are killed in the media for negotiating, and I don't get it. Would the writers of these articles sign a contract they felt to be unfair? Would you?


I would say the same thing about any of the Ohio State players that were doing that before and after the draft.

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