Concealed carry firearm permits in the northeast.

MAJ Badmotherfarker

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What do you guys do in the northeast about crossing state lines? I'm picturing carrying a gun on a train ride that can take you from DC to Virginia, PA, NY, MA, etc. I can't imagine having to have a permit for EVERY state that you happen to pass through... or do you?
 

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Concealed carry in the northeast...good luck with that.

Do you really think you'll need a gun? Bethesda ain't Texas.
 

Jgatie

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Disassemble, store ammunition and gun in two separate locked cases, and put in your stored, not carry on, luggage. That's the only way you can transport a firearm through Jersey. Get caught with it operational and unlocked and you go to jail in NJ, MA and NY. PA recognizes permits from other states, but they are the only one. The rest will throw you in with the murderers and rapists, and be glad to do it.
 

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IMHO the laws up there concerning guns are unconstitutional. But, since that is the law, I would just leave the gun at home.What are the chances you are gonna need it anyway? Just stay out of the hood in DC, and stay outta Newark and you'll be ok!:cool:
 

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The only way to find out is to get in touch with the states that you will be crossing (try calling the Sheriff's office) and ask them if their state recognizes a permit from your state (or DC, if you got the permit there).

CCW laws can be very confusing if you're traveling across state lines.

For example: Both Alaska and Washington are "Shall-Issue" states, but WA doesn't recognize AK CCW permits, whereas you don't even need a CCW permit in Alaska (AK is also "Shall-Issue", but no permit is required if you're carrying in Alaska. The only time you would get one is if you are going to another state).
 
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MAJ Badmotherfarker

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Concealed carry in the northeast...good luck with that.

Do you really think you'll need a gun? Bethesda ain't Texas.

It's not necessarily in Bethesda that I'm wanting to carry a gun (and why I want to cross state lines with it). Once I'm up there, I plan to do a lot of train riding around the various cities in the North East. It's more for that purpose that I'm looking for concealed/carry.
 

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It's not necessarily in Bethesda that I'm wanting to carry a gun (and why I want to cross state lines with it). Once I'm up there, I plan to do a lot of train riding around the various cities in the North East. It's more for that purpose that I'm looking for concealed/carry.
You can see all the great parts of the northeast cities and never be in a bad neighborhood. Millions take the train every day and none carry guns.

I'm all for concealed carry, I'm just saying, it's not worth the trouble in this case.
 

Jgatie

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It's not necessarily in Bethesda that I'm wanting to carry a gun (and why I want to cross state lines with it). Once I'm up there, I plan to do a lot of train riding around the various cities in the North East. It's more for that purpose that I'm looking for concealed/carry.
Not worth it. Trust me (my brother is a cop in MA, and a lawyer), the prosecutors in the NE would rather let a child molester out on the streets than a person licensed to carry in another state (and I am dead serious). Don't ever carry in NY, Mass, RI or Connecticut unless you have a carry permit for that state (which, being "May Issue" states, are scarce as hen's teeth). They will lock you up and will prosecute.

And yes, as someone said, the laws are basically unconstitutional. But they are what they are.
 

MAJ Badmotherfarker

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Not worth it. Trust me (my brother is a cop in MA, and a lawyer), the prosecutors in the NE would rather let a child molester out on the streets than a person licensed to carry in another state (and I am dead serious). Don't ever carry in NY, Mass, RI or Connecticut unless you have a carry permit for that state (which, being "May Issue" states, are scarce as hen's teeth). They will lock you up and will prosecute.

And yes, as someone said, the laws are basically unconstitutional. But they are what they are.

Yea, looks like NY and MA are both pretty bullshit when it comes to gun laws. Every other state recognizes other states' concealed permits except those 2 (of the ones I checked). Pretty lame.
 

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U.S. CCW Reciprocity Map from CarryConcealed.net

According to them... If you got your permit in DC: NO states will recognize your permit and vice-versa. It is only honored in DC alone.

Then there is this:

Can you have a CCW Permit in Washintgon DC?

The Chief of Police of the District of Columbia may, upon the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place of business within the District of Columbia or of any person having a bona fide residence or place of business within the United States and a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by the lawful authorities of any State or subdivision of the United States, issue a license to such person to carry a pistol within the District of Columbia for not more than 1 year from date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to his or her person or property or has any other proper reason for carrying a pistol and that he or she is a suitable person to be so licensed. The license shall be in duplicate, in form to be prescribed by the Mayor of the District of Columbia and shall bear the name, address, description, photograph, and signature of the licensee and the reason given for desiring a license. The original thereof shall be delivered to the licensee, and the duplicate shall be retained by the Chief of Police of the District of Columbia and preserved in his or her office for 6 years. (July 8, 1932, 47 Stat. 651, ch. 465, § 6; 1973 Ed., § 22-3206; 1981 Ed., § 22-3206; May 21, 1994, D.C. Law 10-119, § 15(e), 41 DCR 1639.)
Here is another link that you may find useful... They call it the "Pack-N-Go Carry Concealed Trip Planner":

http://apps.carryconcealed.net/packngo/
 

Jgatie

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Yea, looks like NY and MA are both pretty bullshit when it comes to gun laws. Every other state recognizes other states' concealed permits except those 2 (of the ones I checked). Pretty lame.
My brother is a cop in my home town, I was licensed to carry for 7 years in PA, and I couldn't get anything except a target and hunting permit in MA because the local guy won't issue a concealed carry to anyone (even the brother of a cop). But we have judges letting guys who molest an 11 year old kid go free because being transsexual, he had a "hard life" (the Charles "Ebony" Horton Case). The world is truly upside down.
 

MAJ Badmotherfarker

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My brother is a cop in my home town, I was licensed to carry for 7 years in PA, and I couldn't get anything except a target and hunting permit in MA because the local guy won't issue a concealed carry to anyone (even the brother of a cop). But we have judges letting guys who molest an 11 year old kid go free because being transsexual, he had a "hard life" (the Charles "Ebony" Horton Case). The world is truly upside down.
Yea, that's pretty crazy. I was surprised that being in the military didn't qualify me for some kind of a US-wide permit. I can work with Ebola and anthrax but I can't carry a pistol.
 

Jgatie

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Yea, that's pretty crazy. I was surprised that being in the military didn't qualify me for some kind of a US-wide permit. I can work with Ebola and anthrax but I can't carry a pistol.
It's the difference between "Shall Issue" and "May Issue" states. Shall Issue states can't deny a permit, except for specific, codified reasons that are not left to interpretation. May Issue can deny you for any reason they can dream up, and the reasons often vary from town to town and from officer to officer, depending on who processes your application.
 

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Yea, that's pretty crazy. I was surprised that being in the military didn't qualify me for some kind of a US-wide permit. I can work with Ebola and anthrax but I can't carry a pistol.
Can't you carry an unconcealed weapon? Just sling an M16 over your shoulder. No one will mess with you.
 

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If I remember correctly, the reason that some Shall-Issue states do not honor permits from other Shall-Issue states is because the guidelines for a CCW permit differ in the other state.

For example, let's say one of your home state's guidelines for a CCW is at age 18+, whereas the state you're traveling to shall issue only at age 21+

As for Open Carry...



Permissive Open Carry States - A state has passed full preemption of all firearms laws. They permit open carry to all non-prohibited citizens without permit or license. Also open carry is lawful on foot and in a motor vehicle.

Licensed Open Carry States - A state has passed full preemption of all firearms laws. They also permit open carry to all non-prohibited citizens once they have been issued a permit or license. Also open carry is lawful on foot and in a motor vehicle.

Anomalous Open Carry States - In these states, open carry is generally lawful, but the state may lack preemption or there may be other significant restrictions.

Non-Permissive Open Carry States - In these states, open carry is not lawful, or is only lawful under a limited set of circumstances, such as when hunting, or while traveling to/from hunting locations, while on property controlled by the person carrying, or for lawful self-defense.

As the map shows, seven states and the District of Columbia fully prohibit the open carry of firearms. Additionally, there are eleven states which permit open carry without requiring the citizen to apply for any permit or license.

Disclaimer: While state law may not prohibit the open carry of loaded firearms, it is not uncommon for law enforcement to be unaware of this fact. Especially in states with highly restrictive laws regarding firearms ownership, open carry, even though legal, could result in serious negative consequences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry
 
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