All this multi-casting talk gives me a question.

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Ok. So lets say they will soon combine some of the similar channels. Well it appears as if my JVC 3000 PnP isnt compatible with XM channels. What if one of the channels the keep is an XM? What will happen to people like me?

Also vice-versa. If you have an older XM unit and now you get Sirius 60s instead of the XM one. What happens to you?
 

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No worries. The affected channels will be simulcast on both Sirius and XM. We are just talking about the content here.
 

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Ok. So lets say they will soon combine some of the similar channels. Well it appears as if my JVC 3000 PnP isnt compatible with XM channels. What if one of the channels the keep is an XM? What will happen to people like me?

Also vice-versa. If you have an older XM unit and now you get Sirius 60s instead of the XM one. What happens to you?
You will still get the 60s, 70s, and 80s channels on each service. The channels will be identical but simulcast over each platform. You would get the combined version where you get the non-combined one now (baring a channel re-organization).
 

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I think the question is, say a channel like Cinemagic that is only on XM and there is no like one on SIRIUS. Will that channel get simulcasted on both platforms or will it stay unique to XM only?

It is a good question and honestly I don't know if anyone does know. But it seems to me with the music, they should just simulcast all the music channels across both platforms. But is that what they will do? hmmmm
 

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Yes, the easiest solution is to pick a format of either XM or Sirius, and Simulcast that one station to both kinds of radios. Someone will end up getting hurt in the end, but this way we are on the same page, and its not ass messy as having to add a channel seperatly from XM's service and risk not having a support service. Both companies broadcasting the same content on both satellite systems means the same content either way. Let's hope exlcusive channels like cinemagic, elvis, and margitaville don't suffer and die, but instead also get added on both services.
 

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I think the question is, say a channel like Cinemagic that is only on XM and there is no like one on SIRIUS. Will that channel get simulcasted on both platforms or will it stay unique to XM only?

It is a good question and honestly I don't know if anyone does know. But it seems to me with the music, they should just simulcast all the music channels across both platforms. But is that what they will do? hmmmm
Right now each station has 69 music channels (excluding XM CC channels). I would say probably 45 - 50 of them are simular or duplicate depending on how far you stretch the definition. So if you say 50 that means each service has 19 unique channels. Rather than completely cut 19 channels, I think they will leave them on each service. It will keep some of the dualsubs. On orbitcast Ryan pretty much suggests this by saying a unique channel like The Loft will survive.
 

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Well keeping unique music channels on each service makes sense in terms of keeping dual subs. I guess we'll have to see what they finally do.
 

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Yes, the easiest solution is to pick a format of either XM or Sirius, and Simulcast that one station to both kinds of radios. Someone will end up getting hurt in the end, but this way we are on the same page, and its not ass messy as having to add a channel seperatly from XM's service and risk not having a support service. Both companies broadcasting the same content on both satellite systems means the same content either way. Let's hope exlcusive channels like cinemagic, elvis, and margitaville don't suffer and die, but instead also get added on both services.

If both services have the identical channel lineup. only 69 channels will survive. Some or all of the unique channels will disappear. I would suggest that if some channels disappear, based upon everything that seems to be happening regarding personal, that the XM ones will be chopped.
 

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Ok. So there would be new Sirius XM jingle for all these channels. Correct?
More than likely. I assume that they wouldn't cause mass confusion and renumber all the channels. So if Classic Rewind 15 and Top Tracks 49 are combined to a Classic Tracks channel, it would have to either mention both numbers or have separate but identically timed jingles play at exactly the same time on both services (I don't see why this would not be doable).

I don't think they want to have 19 million people calling in to figure out where their favourite channels went.
 

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Ok. So there would be new Sirius XM jingle for all these channels. Correct?
I've actually wondered why they aren't already adding new jingles for Sirius XM Sat Radio. There are those that say they don't think the name Sirius XM will stay very long and eventually they will go back to just Sirius Sat Radio.

It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
 

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Actually, with the automation software used at Sirius/XM, they could conceivably use separate jingles for the Sirius and XM versions, and have the announcers use generic liners. Plus, the announcers could load separate versions of their talk-ups into the system. It's not that complicated. However it would be easier to just do it once.
 

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I'd like to know why SIRIUS is not offering "Best of XM" for older radios that clearly can handle receiving the new channels. I remember when all of the merger talk began and SIRIUS promised that subscribers would not have to buy new equipment.
 

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I'd like to know why SIRIUS is not offering "Best of XM" for older radios that clearly can handle receiving the new channels. I remember when all of the merger talk began and SIRIUS promised that subscribers would not have to buy new equipment.
I think what they were saying was that you would not need new equipment to continue to receive what you are already getting. Sometimes you really need to parse through those press releases to understand what they really mean.