[quote=ProperModulation;276356]That crew had no choice as their plane was crippled after it collided with the Chinese fighter plane.[/quote]

They should've ditched over the ocean. It was a matter of national security.

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[quote=Vargas;276383]Don't you people see what is happening? This is just more anti Iran stuff so we can go to war with them next.

The drum is beating, be prepared for a lot more.[/quote]

Maybe, but it would be more convincing if Iran shot it down. We've admitted that we flew it across their border and landed it (intentionally or not).

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[quote=Vargas;276383]Don't you people see what is happening? This is just more anti Iran stuff so we can go to war with them next.

The drum is beating, be prepared for a lot more.[/quote]

Unless they (CIA) stripped the drone of all important components/data there is no way this is the case. The CIA wouldn't intentionally give Iran such a valuable piece of equipment, allowing them to reverse engineer it.

Do you really believe what the news reports to be accurate? for real?

Remember there was warnings of 9-11 but as humans we have to believe that there wasn't or why would we allow it to take place?

Can't get into the middle east without a reason even if it's planted.

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[quote=voliconjoe;276399]Remember there was warnings of 9-11 but as humans we have to believe that there wasn't or why would we allow it to take place?[/quote]

Maybe you do but any logically oriented person doesn't.

[quote=Casual Fan;276385]They should've ditched over the ocean. It was a matter of national security.[/quote]

certain death trying to ditch a crippled P3 in the ocean. they followed protocols to destroy sensitive equipment/data before landing and were not obligated to commit suicide in order to protect the equipment that remained in the plane.

[quote=Vargas;276383]Don't you people see what is happening? This is just more anti Iran stuff so we can go to war with them next.

The drum is beating, be prepared for a lot more.[/quote]

Unless we're trying to get them to shoot first this is a sorry plan.

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[quote=ProperModulation;276436]certain death trying to ditch a crippled P3 in the ocean. they followed protocols to destroy sensitive equipment/data before landing and were not obligated to commit suicide in order to protect the equipment that remained in the plane.[/quote]

The pilot told the crew to bail and expected himself to die in the process. That's what soldiers do. But he was able to gain control of the plane and land in China. Then the Chinese reverse-engineered the plane over the course of 10 days and made their own.

[url=http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?file=FL_pilotep3_041701]Military.com Content[/url]

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I heard on the news that Obama asked Iran if we can our drone back, I doubt Iran will give it up. Here a option, where the self-destruct button and blow up those asses over there!

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[quote=Casual Fan;276460]The pilot told the crew to bail and expected himself to die in the process. That's what soldiers do. But he was able to gain control of the plane and land in China. Then the Chinese reverse-engineered the plane over the course of 10 days and made their own.

[url=http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?file=FL_pilotep3_041701]Military.com Content[/url][/quote]

Where does it say that they "reverse engineered" the plane and made their own? This is a P3 airframe which is a 1950's design first flown in the early 60's. Not exactly cutting edge secret technology, and it's something that a lot of other countries fly. Heck, there was even a commercial version of it that flew for the airlines back in the day. And I believe that they have been available in the private market for quite some time now (fire fighting companies buy them for example). The crew followed procedures to sanitize the plane before leaving it. The fact that they have such procedures tells you that it was not their obligation to die to protect what was inside. They did not have cyanide capsules like Francis Powers did over the USSR (who knows, that may even be an urban legend).

The pilot saw that he could land in China and give everyone a better shot at survival (bailing out over the ocean is still highly dangerous) even if it meant letting the Chinese have the plane. This is why I don't agree with your original statement that it was "stupid". The pilot brought his crew back alive and per protocol, that is all you can ask of him. At best the Chinese got their hands on an old airplane with maybe some interesting intel and equipment inside. I'd bet that most of that interesting stuff was ditched or destroyed before they got to it.

This Iran thing is plain stupid. The point of a drone is to keep a pilot out of danger. Since they are expendable, they should be rigged to self destruct at the first sign that they can't come home. That's some pretty high-end technology that we handed over to our enemy.