I have listened to the interview for George's documentary two or three times now... (I listen to Howard repeats as a sleep aid.) I keep coming back to the part where he tells the interviewer that by getting George to talk about sex with Brad, he is making gay sex perfectly normal for his listeners. This is bullshit. Howard does not regard anal sex between men, men kissing men or men blowing men to be perfectly normal. For many years, his terrestrial radio show featured skits with Howard as the lisping homo freak. OK ... I do believe he has evolved and truly believes in gay rights and does not look down upon gays. But I do not believe he has normalized gay sex (for his audience?? are you kidding me?) . Otherwise he would not have George doing those freakish "announces". (He doesn't have anyone doing that kind thing about heterosexual sex). He would not try to promote Scott or Richard having anal sex if he thought it were so normal. Howard is freaked out by that kind of stuff and and titillated by it. Although he seems to have genuine affectiion for George, he treats him as a freak, in my opinion.

I was thinking of this and then applied it to black people and I think I figured out why I kinda don't understand. When you mention some is "black" or "gay" there are people that see it as a simple attribute and there are some that immediately get freaked out and go imediately into defense mode like there's a major problem.

I don't have that kind of stupidity built in. If I hear someone is gay I imediately think of all the benefits of knowing this person. Sense of fashion, humor, etc. Nothing to do with God or the fucking bible or being attacked or catching gay or the fear of people thinking I'm gay or being hit on.

Just good sense of style pops up. Unfortunately there are people and lots of them that do the exact oposite. They take it as some huge deal. Abomination that needs no further attention to a whole lot of people. Hell, almost 50% of the country right now is voting against gay and women rights. That's pretty God dam disguisting if you ask me. THOSE are the people that I get fight or flight reaction from.

Getting back to stern, his point is that on Oprah and daytime TV they pretend that guys blowing eachother doesn't happen but Kardashian gang bang is bible worthy and open for general discussion like it's old hat. Talk open about it kills the shock value.

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But Howard is doing a bit when he gets George to talk about sex with Brad. George may be deluding himself that it's not a bit but it is. Howard is not just chatting it up. It's fine to do a bit. George has no problem and everyone likes George. What bugs me (well, a little bit) is Howard bragging about doing good works for gay people by making gay sex sound normal. It's clearly freakish to Howard and he doesn't make it sound normal (wonder if he ever took the planned coffee table book photos of Sal and Richard having gay sex?)

Howard: Once the three of us were together, everything felt right. I mean, things really started to take off. I mean, things really started to take off. It was then that I made a startling discovery."

Robin: "She's a beautiful girl. You're telling me this beautiful woman is a lesbian?"

Howard: "Lesbians equal ratings. Now let me say something. I am the hero of the lesbian community, am I not, Robin?"

Robin: "I guess you are.:

Howard: "I absolutely am. All right. Now, let's get into it. Julie, I want you to tell us about your first lesbianic experience."




Here's an entirely different, yet also appropriate audio clip:
http://moviesounds.com/private/gaywnbc.wav