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Old 01-07-2010, 10:20 PM
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I just purchased a Yamaha RX-X863 a/v receiver. I have been messing around with it for a day or so now and it has built in HD radio. It seems like I can only receive 3 channels that have HD, the other other channels that supposed to have them does not come in. Is this because the antenna I have , or HD band is not powerful enough. The main channel comes in loud and clear. I should add that i live about 45 miles from the broadcast towers.

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Most people have reported trouble getting HD signals more than 10 miles from a tower.
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HD signals run at a very small fraction of the power of the main analog signal.
That's the compromise that had to be made in order to allow the analog and digital signals to co-exist on the same frequency.
The FCC and NPR are experimenting with increasing the power of digital signals. However, it seems that so far, adding too much more power to the digital signal starts to cause interference on adjacent channels. So the bottom line is that it might get a little better, but not too much.
Also, some stations are not in a big hurry to get their digital signals back on the air if there are problems. It's just not a high priority in many cases. Engineering staffs are already stretched, and the analog signals are the money makers (and thus the main priority).

Radio, like the rest of the world, needs to deal with the move to digital from analog.
HD radio, as it was executed, is a poorly executed concept. I realize that something had to be done about the millions of existing analog receivers, but maybe a new "digital only" band with a 10 year transition window would have been a better solution.
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HD signals run at a very small fraction of the power of the main analog signal.
That's the compromise that had to be made in order to allow the analog and digital signals to co-exist on the same frequency.
The FCC and NPR are experimenting with increasing the power of digital signals. However, it seems that so far, adding too much more power to the digital signal starts to cause interference on adjacent channels. So the bottom line is that it might get a little better, but not too much.
Also, some stations are not in a big hurry to get their digital signals back on the air if there are problems. It's just not a high priority in many cases. Engineering staffs are already stretched, and the analog signals are the money makers (and thus the main priority).

Radio, like the rest of the world, needs to deal with the move to digital from analog.
HD radio, as it was executed, is a poorly executed concept. I realize that something had to be done about the millions of existing analog receivers, but maybe a new "digital only" band with a 10 year transition window would have been a better solution.

If possible, try an outdoor antenna.
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Thanks for the responses, I will stick with Sirius and iPod for the time being.
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What are you using for an antenna?
How high is it?
Is it in the clear and pointed the right way?
Good low loss shielded downlead?
These are all important considerations.
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What are you using for an antenna?
How high is it?
Is it in the clear and pointed the right way?
Good low loss shielded downlead?
These are all important considerations.
Right...which is why HD Radio is the failure that it is.
It needs to be plug and play.

It's really too bad. HD Radio had a chance to be a game changer, and they blew it. Broadcasters don't want to make the investment in hardware or programming. Listeners don't care.
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I have a Zune HD (which has a tuner for HD Radio) and the only decent station on the dial is NPR.
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The biggest problem with HD Radio is the stations, although crystal clear, are programmed by the same bozos who program the analogue stations which have everybody turning them off. Why invest in hardware to get low quality crap with a high quality signal?
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...maybe a new "digital only" band with a 10 year transition window would have been a better solution.
As every Eureka country is doing. Eureka-147 is the world standard outside the US.
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